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I'm looking for my ancestor who came to America from Ireland. I think he is David Wiley, who raised a family in Pennsylvania beginning about 1780, in Northumberland County.  The only Information I have on my Irish roots is "they lived in County Cork, worked with horses and made whiskey."  Can anyone help me?

Tuesday 26th Mar 2013, 12:51PM

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  • I found him in the U.S. 1800 Census living in Haines, PA  (see www.familysearch.org)

    David Wiley, "United States Census, 1800" Name:David WileyEvent Place:Haines, Northumberland, PennsylvaniaPage Number:810Affiliate Publication Number:M32Affiliate Film Number:37GS Film number:363340Digital Folder Number:004440864Image Number:00184Citing this Record

    "United States Census, 1800," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XHR4-GRC : accessed 26 Mar 2013), David Wiley, 1800.

     

    Rita Jane

    Tuesday 26th Mar 2013, 02:44PM
  • Yes, I have this, and the family line after, but I'm trying to find who came from Ireland and when.  There don't seem to be many immigration records this early in time.

    Thanks for trying, and please let me know if you have any resources in Ireland.

    Julie

    Wednesday 27th Mar 2013, 12:46PM
  • Yes, I have this, and the family line after, but I'm trying to find who came from Ireland and when.  There don't seem to be many immigration records this early in time.

    Thanks for trying, and please let me know if you have any resources in Ireland.

    Julie

    Wednesday 27th Mar 2013, 12:47PM
  • I see that you too are having trouble with the "delay" when posting.  I often post twice, thinking the first one wasn't going through.  

    Have you researched the records in Haines, PA ??   Called the County Courthouse?   You might find 'origin' information on some document related to them.  Otherwise, yes, it will be difficult to trace migration from that time frame... not impossible, but you might need to hire help from someone with that sort of search knowledge.   

    Rita Jane

    Wednesday 27th Mar 2013, 05:40PM
  • You can try searching the Irish Family History Foundation website.  Searches are free, but 'viewing' the record online will cost 5 euros.   The records are amazing though and you can search different way, one surname, two surnames, one county, or across all counties.

    Sometimes gravemarkers contain place of origin.  Check www.findagrave.com  

    Rita Jane

    Wednesday 27th Mar 2013, 05:43PM
  • You can try searching the Irish Family History Foundation website.  Searches are free, but 'viewing' the record online will cost 5 euros.   The records are amazing though and you can search different way, one surname, two surnames, one county, or across all counties.

    Sometimes gravemarkers contain place of origin.  Check www.findagrave.com  

    Rita Jane

    Wednesday 27th Mar 2013, 05:44PM
  • Thanks for your suggestions!  I tried the Irish Family History Foundation, but only half of County Cork has records so far, and the records that are there are mostly later in time.  I'll keep looking, and checking back with them - thanks for your ideas!

    Nothing on Find-A-Grave from this early.  David Wiley Jr is there, in Hanoverton, OH.  But I can't find any of the earlier Wileys in PA.

    Good luck with your research too!

    Julie

    Wednesday 27th Mar 2013, 07:51PM
  • Maybe you've come across this already, or maybe "Dick Wiley" is someone you know, but this posting on Genforum for a Wiley family contains many of the names/places you've mentioned (PA/OH, Haines Twp, PA, Hanoverton, OH, etc).  They also mention a place in Ireland as "Colerian" but they probably mean "Coleraine".

    http://genforum.genealogy.com/wiley/messages/2844.html

    Rita Jane

    Wednesday 27th Mar 2013, 08:07PM
  • There's also a Slaveholder's List for 1780 Chester County, PA, showing a David Wiley of Londongrove Twp:  http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/chester/history/local/slaves1780.txt

     

    There's also a David Wiley, soldier, in the War of 1812 from PA:

    http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/delaware/military/war1812/service/3ddi…

    Rita Jane

    Wednesday 27th Mar 2013, 08:18PM
  • More, but perhaps too early for your Wiley's.

    WILL of David Wiley, London Grove Twp, Chester Co., PA  (came from Ulster, Ireland)

    http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ldshistorical…;

     

    • http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=christos&id=I…
      WILL: David Wiley of London Grove Twp, Chester Co, PA, to wife Mary choice of
      bed and its furniture downstairs, tea table, half of the pewter, her little wheel, half the flax now and yearly, half the sheep, two cows, the sorrel mare, saddle and bridle and 6 lbs yearly, negro Dinah during her life. If she is unhappy with her treatment and chooses another place, then to have 20 lbs per year paid her by my son John. To my son John a woolen wheel and warming pan, the plantation and house whereon I now live with all the outhouses, with the grand, my negro man Geroge, a bed and furniture, a cow, the black mare and colt, the still, all the whisky in the cellar, all the provisions and grain in the house, a waggon, plough and harrow, all the debts paying funeral expenses due from my estate. To my dau. in law Nancy a cow, to my son John my apple mill and cider works. To my son in law William Hanna 20 sh. to my dau. Sarah Hnnah 30 lbs to be paid after her husband's decease and if she dies first then to his three children after the said William Hanna deceases. To my son Matthew Wiley 20 lbs to be paid by son John, to my son David Wiley 14 lbs 10 sh. paid by son John, to my grandson David McCalmont 10 lbs, to Betsey Galbraith 10lbs she she is 17. To my sons Joseph Wiley, Thomas Wiley, David Wiley, Matthew Wiley and Susannah Brooks the remainder of my estate equally divided after the death of my wife Mary. My negro Dinah to be valued and 1/4 part of value to sons Joseph, Thomas, Matthew and son-in-law William Brooks and she to have her choice of persons above to serve. My iron pots to be divided by wife Mary and son John.

      All my wearing apparel to my wife's disposal. To my granddau. Jean Wiley, dau.
      of Thomas Wiley 1-2 year old heifer. If any son claims for work done for me
      when they were of age, they recieve 20 sh. instead of their legacies. To my son
      in law William Brooks one bond of 22 pds 10 sh, and 3 pense on himself dated
      Nov. 1, 1768. My sons Thomas and John executors. Date Mar. 7 1783 proved Feb.
      23, 1784 witnesses Nathaniel Wallace and Francis Carson. David signed, Mary put
      her mark.

      1

    • Birth: 17 SEP 1717 in , , Pennsylvania
    • Death: 17 FEB 1784 in London Grove Twp, Chester, Pennsylvania
    • Probate: 23 FEB 1784 , Chester, Pennsylvania

       

      Father: Joseph WILEY b: ABT 1694 in , Ulster, Ireland 
      Mother: Abigail LIGHTFOOT b: 1696 in Ballyherian, Westmeath, Ireland

      Marriage 1 Mary Ann DONEY b: ABT 1725

        Children

        1. Has No Children WILEY b: ABT 1745
        2. Has Children David WILEY b: ABT 1747 in , , Pennsylvania
        3. Has Children Joseph WILEY b: ABT 1750
        4. Has Children John WILEY b: 17 SEP 1751 in , Chester, Pennsylvania
        5. Has Children Matthew WILEY b: 17 SEP 1751 in , Chester, Pennsylvania
        6. Has No Children Sarah WILEY b: ABT 1753
        7. Has Children Thomas WILEY b: ABT 1755
        8. Has No Children Susannah WILEY b: ABT 1757

       

      Rita Jane

      Wednesday 27th Mar 2013, 08:24PM
    • Wow, I thought I was the only one digging into this much detail in 1700's Pennsylvania!  The Chester County Wiley's are giving me an ulcer... there are so many similarities in names, but the dates and places are always off.  My documentation to PA include David Jr stating he was born in PA on a Census, and his first land purchase in Ohio giving Centre Pennsylvania as the location he came from.  I have a David Wiley family in Northumberland in 1800. (I think that's David Sr as head of household, with David Jr as one of the 16-25 year olds)  And David Jr in Haines, Centre, PA in 1810, a couple years after he married.  

      The Chester County Wileys are many, and firmly established there, so I really don't think they're my family - but they could be siblings or cousins of some sort to David Sr.  Even the "Thomas Wiley" there is haunting me, as there is a Thomas Wiley in Hanoverton OH in 1830, but not before or after, and I don't know if he's a sibling/cousin of David Jr or not. 

      The only family history I have to aid this is the story that our Wileys came from County Cork, and the Chester County Wileys are from further north.

      That's probably way more info than you need to know, but I think they're the ones coming up in your last round of finds.  I'll do some more digging in the PA Archives... maybe there's something there.

      Thanks, Rita!

      Wednesday 27th Mar 2013, 10:11PM

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