Herlihy's of Killabraher North

Claire:

Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!

I checked the 1901 census and there were two Herlihy families in the townland of Killabraher North. One family has three unmarried siblings and I'm wondering if they were related to John. I would check the 1911 census.

Here is a link to the online Irish phonebook http://www.eirphonebook.ie/#  You may want to look for Herlihys in Co. Cork. Make sure you use the Residential Tab.

Let me know if you have questions.

Roger McDonnell

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Dromina/Killabrah…

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Dromina/Killabrah…

Roger,

I have seen the census records. I am not sure how to connect them with John generations earlier. I met a Herlihy family in Killabraher in 2001 when I visited Ireland. They did not think we had any connection and they had no records. I have not worked on my tree since that time. I am back at it and believe I am connected to the five Herlihy brothers I met in 2001. I have recently reached out to one of the brothers hoping to reconnect. Can you recommend someone in Ireland who might be able to help me? I contacted the Mallow Heritage Center in 2001 and may try them again. 

Thank you, 

Claire

Claire:

I searched on Roots Ireland in the Shandrum records and found four baptismal records for children of a Maurice Herlihy and an Ellen Cronin. (There were other Maurice Herlihys in the parish). I found David in 1835, John 1837, Mary 1841 and Denis 1843. Do you have these records and is this the family?

Roger

calireAccording to the information from the Mallow Center, Maurice was married to Mary Mahoney on 23Feb1819 in Shandrum. Their children were: 

Patrick (13 Mar1823), in Shandrum,

John (27Apr1827), Ballyhea

David (02Mar1829), Ballyhea

Mary (27Dec1833), Ballyhea

Elizabeth (01Nov1836), Shandrum.

Just recently I was given information telling me there two were other children, Maurice and Margaret, no dates given. I have been trying to read the parish records. I have been able to confirm the birth dates listed above. I have not found the two added siblings. I will check Ballyhea tonight.

I found 3 or 4 telephone numbers that may match, John, Donal and Joseph in Killabraher and David (Catholic priest) in Killmallock. Patrick in Charleville may be connected. Their brother Maurice Noel lives in Naas, I think.

Thank you for your help. Any and all suggestions are appreciated.

Claire

Hi Claire: I am a decendant of John's sister Elizabeth (Eliza). I would be able to provide you information on her children with John Sweeney... there is even a Maurice Sweeney; however, I too am looking for records or details on Maurice Herlihy and Mary Maloney, and would be interested in anything that you have uncovered -- Gena

Hello Claire and Gena,

I am married to a Herlihy from Shandrum and I had compiled a family tree over the past 10 years, -  my own Sheedy family and  more recently the Herlihy family.  Can you advise if Patrick Herlihy b 1823, brother to John Mahoney Herlihy  went to New Hampshire and died there.

Records pre 1840 are poor in Ireland,  I am trying to link all Herlihys in Shandrum and from there I should be able to say which degree of cousin exists between New Hampshire Herlihys and Shandrum Herlihys.

Dermot

Gena

Hi Dermot: My records on Eliza's siblings are very brief, but I always assumed he stayed behind in Ireland because I never saw him in census records living around the other siblings. There was one Patrick Herlihy living in Lynn Massachusetts that at one time I thought might be him until I turned up a death record with different parental names on it. 

I would be most interested in any information you are willing to share.

Dermot, 

I have had little success in researching Patrick Herlihy. The Mallow Heritage Center placed his birth on 13 Mar 1823, which predates the released digital parish records. I have confirmed his siblings dates. John, David, Mary Ann and Eliza all came to the USA. 

I visited Shandrum in 2001. I met four Herlihy brothers, John, Patrick, Donal and Fr. David, in Killabraher North. I later met Maurice Noel is Naas online. I believe there is a family connection between the brothers and myself. I am hoping your wife, a "Herlihy from Shandrum" can help me find the connection. 

I look forward to hearing from you.

Claire

PS. I have had some difficulty sending this, so if this is a repeat, I do apologize.

Hello Claire and Gena,

As part of my family tree i had done the Herlihy family back to approx. 1830.  My wife is a sister to the above men  you met in 2001 and as far as I can be certain I have traced that family back to a Maurice Herlihy who married in 1833 and who you can find in Griffiths valuations and had chidren up to the middle 1850's when the youngest Maurice was born.  This new Maurice married in late 1890's and is a grandfather to the men you met.

Your Maurice who married in 1819 may be a cousin or indeed uncle to the Maurice who married in 1833.  Records are terrible pre 1820 to trace the two Maurice's.  We would require their mothers maiden name to link them.

I notice your Maurice was married in Shandrum to Mahony and some children are baptised in Ballyhea which is another parish. Perhaps the Mahony was from Shandrum and Maurice from Ballyhea and they lived for a time in Ballyhea.

Some more digging required .   Dermot.

Thank you for your response. It is nice to connect with yet another Herlihy in this search process. Are you still in Shandrum? Was Maurice (1833) in the Griffith's Valuation in Killabraher North or some where else? There is also Richard Herlihy and John Herlihy in Killabraher North and a Patrick David Herlihy in Killabraher South. Have you looked at the revision books for the Griffith's Valuation. They are not available in the USA, yet. 

I will be back at the search immediately. 

Claire

Hello Dermot,

I have found Maurice Herlihy and Ellen Cronin having 5 children between 1835 and 1853, in Shandrum. They are

David (19Jan1835), John (30Oct1837), Mary (31Aug1841), William (18May1851) and Maurice (26Jun1853). Are they your

wife's ancesters? When were Maurice and Ellen married in 1833?? In Shandrum? Is this Maurice  your wife's great

grandfather? Unfortunately, the Shandrum records seem to start in 1829, so finding information on Maurice's birth is difficult.

I hope I am on the right track??

Thanks again.

Claire

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Hello Claire and Gena,

I will be attempting to extend our family tree back further than 1830's.  If I find any details I will pass it on to you.  At present I cannot find any D O B's, birth records or baptisimal records for  Maurice Herlihy and Eleanor Cronin who married in 1834.  As the search goes on I will update you.

Dermot.

Lookin forward to hearing from you.

Claire

Hello Claire and Gena,

I note that your ancestor Maurice was connected in some way,  to Killabraher and Ballyhea.  Land was leased by Landlords in that time and a number of Herlihy familiies rented land in Killabraher - most likely small portions of the present lands.  Note there were 35 Herlihys born in Shandrum Parish between 1830 and 1848  and post famine years 1852 to 1872 there were only 8.  The famine had a devastating effect on Ireland's population.

Another cousin in Minnesota has traced her ancestors back to Killabraher and she has done DNA with other cousins in USA.  If you send me an email I can connect you with her.

Dermot

Hello again,

Thank you again. My email is  chshaw3@comcast.net. Please pass it on. I have also done my DNA.

I have done some research in Minnesota on a Maurice Herlihy who settled there. I could not document any of the records as definite ancesters. My great aunt Elisabeth Mae Herlihy (1880), daughter of John Mahoney Herlihy, hinted in a passing remark on one of her papers about Maurice in Minnesota. I will look at those notes again.

There are several Herlihy's in Killabraher North including Maurice, Richard and John. In Killabraher South, I see Patrick David and Jane, plus a graveyard. I this your Maurice?? I used the information I acquired from the Mallow Heritage Center to find the property when I visited Ireland in 2001. I will look further into Richard, John and Patrick David.

Plaese do keep me posted.

Claire