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Can anyone help, we have a Catherine Shields, (aged 28yo at marriage) b.abt 1840 Londonderry who married John Robertson (aged 38yo) in Williamstown, Victoria Australia on 5 Nov 1870, the marriage certificate has Catherine’s parents as Edward Shields (shoemaker) & Margaret Graham, so possibly from around the same area in Londonderry.

As yet have not found when she immigrated, but more interested on her parents.

We are also trying to link the above family with Moses Shields, b.abt 1841 Faughan (Near Londonderry) his father was Edward Shields.

Moses m. Anna Isabella Hutton, b.2 Apr 1842 Belfast, m. 10 Oct 1861, Blythswood, Glasgow, parents William Hutton, b.1815 Ireland, & Eliza Thompson, b.1816 Ireland.

One of Moses daughters was names Margaret Graham Shields, b.5 Oct 1863, Bridgeton, Glasgow, (Graham showing up in both families.)

As we have DNA that seem to match both families

Regards Keith

 

youngie

Wednesday 22nd Jan 2020, 12:08PM

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  • Keith,

    I had a look in the 1831 census for Faughanvale. There was only 1 Shields/Sheilds (many variants) in the parish. That was Patrick Sheills who lived in Cloghole townland. His household consisted of him and 1 female. Both Church of Ireland.

    There were plenty other Shields etc in the county but those were the only ones in that parish.

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

    Birth registration didn’t start till 1864. Prior to that you need to rely on church baptism records.

    Faughanvale Church of Ireland baptism, marriage & burial records start in 1802, the Presbyterian baptism records start in 1819 and marriages in 1845, RC records start 1863. The Church of Ireland & Presbyterian records are not on-line anywhere so far as I am aware but there are copies in PRONI in Belfast. Researchers in the PRONI area: http://sgni.net

    I had a look for deaths for Edward and Margaret in the Londonderry registration area 1864 – 1901. I did not find any. (1864 is when death registration started so if they died before that there may not be a record unless they were Church of Ireland. It’s the only denomination that routinely kept burial records). The 1861 Scottish marriage certificate should tell you whether Edward Shields was alive at that date. If deceased it should have “dcd” after his name. If it doesn’t you can assume he was alive. They were pretty meticulous about that in Scotland (in contrast to Ireland where they rarely bothered).

     

     

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Wednesday 22nd Jan 2020, 01:21PM
  • G’day Elwyn,

    Thank you very much for your quick reply & research, and now will look at expanding my search for Edward & Margaret, although I have had extensive search here without success, they could have moved across the channel.

    I had looked at the 1901- 11 census for possible relatives also.

    Again thank you for taking the trouble, I will keep looking, as Mum would say, “Nothing comes without hard work”

    Regards Keith Young
    Mooloolaba,
    Queensland
    Australia

    young.keith000@gmail.com

     

    youngie

    Thursday 23rd Jan 2020, 08:17AM

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