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Hello,
I was told by our old generation relatives on my grandmothers side that these family members were from Donegal county. But I have no idea where. Here is what I did find out.
My 3rd great grandparents Fred Gallagher married Nancy McClafferty mid 1800's  (both maybe born abt 1800-1830??) and had my great-great grandmother Annie Gallagher-Friel, Feb 1854 per several US census...exception is that  her death certificate says born 1847 safe to say between 1847-1854.

I show 3 different dates of Annie arriving in Philadelphia, PA, US
--1870 at age 16 alone, no other family? (per 1900 census)- I may have also found possibly her a month after arrv on the 1870c marked lodger without family.
--1866 per 1920c
--1867 per 1930c
Safe to say arrived between 1866 and 1870.

I know they went to a Catholic church and were buried in a Catholic cemetery sooo safe to say they were Catholic.

She married John Friel I believe about 1881 in Philadelphia. Had several children between 1881-1888. Before moving in the 1890's to Pittsburgh, PA, USA.
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Information on Annie's hubby John Friel (my 2nd great grandfather) not to sure of birthday, Per several census in 1900,1910 & 1920 born Jan 1850 but his death certificate said unknown birth date per his daughter....guessing 1845-1850.
His father may have been named John Friel...as per death certificate, but his daughter wrote unknown everywhere else...maybe she mistook "Father's name" as being HER father and wrote John???
Per census and also came to USA, I believe his Mother was named Cecelia Friel b: abt 1820 (maiden name unknown) and a sister Anne Mary Friel b June 1865.
Anne Mary married a Michael Dougherty...and his father Daniel Dougherty owned the burial plot that Annie Friel, John Friel, Anne Mary Friel-Dougherty and her hubby Michael (along with 17 others) were buried in at St Mary's CATHOLIC cemetery at the turn of the 1900th century.

I am stuck; if you could help or even guide me along I would greatly appreciate it. I would like to find out where they came from before I plan my trip to Ireland.

Sincerely,  :-)
Suz Fitzpatrick-Amrhein
Pittsburgh, PA, USA

Suz139

Thursday 27th Jun 2013, 03:21PM

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  • Suz:

    I checked the 1858 Griffiths Valuation for Co. Donegal for a Fred or Frederick Gallagher with no success.Is it possible that he also went by another name such as Edward?

    All four names are very common in Co. Donegal. (There were 1865 Gallagher in Griffiths, 174 Friels, 1927 Dogherty/Dohertys and 80 McClaffertys.) Civil registration did not begin in Ireland until 1864 so you would need to search Church records if you knew where they were from.

    The best resource for Donegal genealogy resources is: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/

    Roger McDonnell

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Thursday 27th Jun 2013, 03:58PM
  • Hello, Rodger,

    I had posted this a long time ago...to date I have sadly not found a thing on this side of my family using Ancestry or Family Search.This week I joined the ROOTie site and unless I am doing something incorrect I am VERY diapointed, they really only show births/deaths after 1860ish...I was hoping to see Griffith Valuation, it shows names but I cannot see a scan of the page/book...so it seems useless. Any advise is very welcomed.

    **And I am hopefully excited that next summer my search will OPEN with the Catholic records being released**

    Anyway, for the duration of Febuary, if there is any research on ROOTie I can do to help anyone else...PLEASE ask! Hate to waste.

    And I never answered your question...Fred Gallagher is all I have in regards to my 2nd great grandfather's name, as this was what was written by the nuns when my great grandmother died in the Sisters of the Poor home in Pittsburgh, PA in 1935. And yes they are all VERY common names and hard to research...except for McClafferty I guess...but I will continue . ;-)

    Regards,

    Suzie Fitzpatrick-Amrhein

    Suz139

    Wednesday 4th Feb 2015, 11:21AM
  • Suzie:

    The problem with Co. Donegal research is that very few churches have records before 1860.  I am currently transcribing the 1901 census for Donegal. I have close to 10,000 households completed on my web site www.leitrim-roscommon.com/1901census    Your family may have come from the area around Tullaghobegley civil parish in northwest Donegal. 

    For the Griffiths a good site is www.askaboutireland.ie  You can get a list of all tenants in a particular townland. There are also maps.

    Have you looked into DNA testing? Autosomal testing may be helpful.

    Let me know if you have questions.

    Roger

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Wednesday 4th Feb 2015, 04:11PM
  • Thanks for your swift reply,

    I will look at your web-site and review the Griffiths. Thanks

    Dad did the Y-DNA study for the paternal side. But this portion of my research would be the maternal side and there are no naternal DNA test that match close enough worth helping me along. I am one of 5 daughters...feel blessed Dad was still alive to do the Y study for my research.

    Its a sad (with a happy ending, due to todays technology) story on my Dad's Fitzpatrick side of the family. Research has brought lots of joy to Dad and his siblings who had NO idea about their Irish family. 

    Thank you for all the help and support you give...it is truly appreciated by me and many others like me.

    Blessings,
    Suz 
    Pittsburgh, PA 

    Suz139

    Wednesday 4th Feb 2015, 04:30PM
  • Suz:

    Family Tree DNA and I believe Ancestry have an autiosomal or (Family Finder) test which allows you to find distant ( and maybe not so distant) cousins. The test which costs around $99 looks at data on both your maternal and paternal lines.

    You are correct about the mtDNA test. It does not give you any recent data but autosomal does help. I was able to break down a brick wall with my McFaddens in Co. Donegal. Feel free to log into my Family tree account and check out my matches.

    kit 299474 and password ireland

    Roger

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Thursday 5th Feb 2015, 05:53PM
  • Suz:

    I forgot to mention that I transcribed a 1901 census record yesterday for a Frederick Gallagher. He was also in the 1911 census in Kilmackilloo townland in Clondahorky parish.

    Roger

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Creenasmear/Ki…

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Donegal/Creenasmear/Ki…

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Thursday 5th Feb 2015, 09:24PM
  • Roger,

    I must say I need more education in regards to autosomal DNA. I reviewed your myFTDNA information. I cannot find how you connected your McFaddens in Co. Donegal?? Should I be looking under the section "Family finders"? My knowledge is limited to only YDNA (Dad's) I lean on Dr Colleen Fitzpatrick's guidance and information. I have been torn between using Dad's DNA to do the family finder portion or doing it myself. Dads YDNA narrowed down to 3 at the 37 level...1 Fitzpatrick but we could NOT find a connection (probably before records were kept) and then there were 2 others Kearns and Kerin...they sound so similar its possible one of the names changed, probably upon entry into this country. 

    Do you attend any genealogy seminars or recommend any in our part of US?

    Someday I would love to chat with you on how you got so involved in this great Ireland xo project. 

    I saw you found a Fred Gallagher in 1901 and 1911...I should have mentioned he is my 3rd great grandfather not sure of his year of birth but my great grandmother Annie was born in 1854...sadly they are both before records were kept.

    I cannot wait till summer...wonder if I could volunteer to transcribe and maybe find something sooner...lol 

    Well got to make dinner for hubby.

    Thanks for your guidance and support! 
     

    Suz139

    Thursday 5th Feb 2015, 10:21PM
  • Suz:

    You can't tell from looking directly at my Family Finder matches.

    You need to look at matches and the surnames shown and send e-mails to your matches. There are also tools to assist such as the Chromosome Browser. Some people are very cooperative. Others don't respond.  My McFadden breakthru resulted from a lady contacting me and telling me that I matched her uncle P.J. Curran. Her uncle had connections back to an area of Donegal (not far from your Gallaghers) where there were a lot of McFaddens. After some further checking I was able to pinpoint the townland where my McFaddens came from. 

    You asked about how i got involved with Ireland Reaching Out. I had signed up as a user back in 2012. In early 2013, IRO put out a call for volunteers to be parish liaisons. I signed up for a couple parishes in Roscommon. I then started to respond to some of the messages on the message board. One thing led to another and now I spend quite a few hours a day working on responding to folks across the world. I've learned a lot more about researching Irish records jut by working on these messages. The fact that I'm now retired allows me to spend time on the project.

    IRO is in the process of a new redesign of the web site. We hope to have it up in March but time will tell.

    I need to clarify the National Library of ireland project. Right now they have the parish registers on microfilm and researchers visit the library and look at the microfilm for their parish of interest using the readers at the library. Their plan is to digitize the microfilm so there is no plan to transcribe the records.

    I don't attend genealogy seminars and I'm not aware of any on the east Coast. I'm sure there are some around.

    Roger

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Friday 6th Feb 2015, 12:45AM
  • Good morning,

    When you referr to the National Library of ireland project...this is different than the Catholic records being released the summer of 2015, correct? 

    Suz

    Suz139

    Friday 6th Feb 2015, 12:53PM
  • Suz:

    Good morning. No, it is the same project.

    Roger

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Friday 6th Feb 2015, 04:03PM
  • Hello just a query I was wondering if either of you have found a John McClafferty marrying a Honorah ( Norah) Gallagher please ? 

    Thank you

    Peta

    Saturday 8th Apr 2023, 02:31PM
  • Hi Peta, No I have not found the 2 you mentioned.

     

    Suz139

    Monday 10th Apr 2023, 02:48PM

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