I am re-posting this request from May in hopes I receive some responses.
I am looking to determine a relationship between Patrick Blanchflower (born between 1798 and 1805 in Ireland, county unknown) and James Blanchflower (born about 1801 in Ireland, county unknown). I think they are brothers but can't prove it. Patrick married Winnifred Ward, date unknown but likely around 1825 or 1826 in Ireland, and died in Ashton under Lyne, Cheshire England in 1845. I have his death certificate. James Blanchflower married Ann Craven in Ashton Under Lyne and died in Ashton Under Lyne in 1885. I have his death certificate also.
There are numerous Blanchflowers living in Dublin City in the late 1700's and early 1800's, so I have been looking there for Patrick and James' baptism records but with no luck. This has mostly been in St Catherine's Church. They were Catholic.
Locating the sponsors on their children's baptism record may establish a link but I have not been able to locate those records.
Patrick's children (dates approximate)
Michael, born in Ireland, county unknown 1826
Hugh James born Cheshire England 1829
Elizabeth born Cheshire 1835
John born 1837 Cheshire
James Blanchflower's' (1801-1885) children all born in either Lancashire or Cheshire England
Mary born 1829
Thomas 1831
Ann 1834
James 1836
Charles 1840
Ann 1842
Also, if I can find the names of the parents of either James or Patrick, it would provide the connection I'm looking for.
Appreciate any guidance you can provide that would lead me closers to solving this mystery.
Terri D
Friday 23rd Sep 2022, 10:58AMMessage Board Replies
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Without a more detailed location, i.e. place of birth and/or place of marriage it's going to be difficult to trace these individuals back any further in Ireland. Most of the Catholic and Church of Ireland records for Dublin city are available on the free IrishGenealogy website (the exception is St. Paul's RC). As you may have seen there are a small number of Blanchflower baptisms, and marriages, along with one death/burial. Two thirds of these are Catholic the remainder Church of Ireland. Do you know what religious denomination your Blanchflower / Ward family were ?
There's just one Patrick Blanchflower mentioned that I see, married to an Elizabeth Casey in 1790, no sign of a James Blanchflower or a baptism for Michael (b ~ 1826).
The IrishGenealogy website covers all the surviving Church of Ireland records for the City, but only a couple of parishes for County Dublin.Protestant records (i.e. Church of Ireland, Presbyterian, Methodist etc) are not as well covered online as Catholic. Most RC parish registers are available on the NLI website, and indexed by FindMyPast and Ancestry, however note that the dates involved here are very early, very few Catholic parishes have records for the 1700s, and the average starting date for records in rural areas is about 1830.
I searched for possible baptisms for Michael or any possible siblings in Catholic baptism records 1826 +-10, his baptism being the most recent event in Ireland - just one match, Thomas Blanchflower baptised 1830 in Dublin city to parents Thomas and Elizabeth Jones at St. Nicholas RC (Francis Street).
A quick check for possible marriage for Patrick in RC records showed no results, so seems Michael was likely born in a parish were the records start too late, similarly for the marriage of Patrick & Winnifred or the family were not Catholic.Shane Wilson, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
Sunday 25th Sep 2022, 11:33AM