Cranston family from Tempo.

daljul:

Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!

Which parish was Francis baptized? Marriage could have been in another parish but need to start somewhere.

Roger McDonnell

Tempo RC baptism and marriage records only start in 1845 so if John & Ellen married there before that year, there won’t be a record to find.

Griffiths Valuation  for 1862 lists Jane and Ellen Cranston in Edenmore which is a few hundred yards outside Tempo. Ellen had plot 21 which was a house she rented from Jane, who had an 8 acre farm. Today it’s just off the Edenmore Rd.

http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=nameSearch

The revaluation records show Jane being replaced by Charles McCormack in 1871.

Ellen was replaced by Anne Cranston in 1888. Anne was replaced by Patrick Cranston in 1896. He was replaced by George Millar in 1900.

Don’t know if it’s your family but they did live near Tempo and you might want to look at them.

There’s just 2 Ellen Cranston deaths between 1864 and 1900, registered in the Enniskillen registration area. One in 1872 aged 69 and the other in 1878 aged 66. You can view the original certificates on-line on the GRONI website, using the “search registrations” option:

https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk

You will need to open an account and buy some credits. It costs £2.50 (sterling) to a view a certificate. 

daljul:

I see that Elwyn read the subject line which I missed.

Roger

Thank you both for trying to help.

I was hoping that I would be able to access a marriage so if as it seems that none were recorded before 1845, how is it possible to get further back than John & Ellen? and I wonder where or when John died as he does not appear to be shown in County Cavan, Fermanagh unless he had died before 1864 he does seem to have followed his sons to Lancashire.

Is it likely that I can not get a generation back from John & Ellen then?

The RC church generally don’t keep death records, so if John died before 1864 there won’t be a written record unless it is mentioned in local papers or on a gravestone. There are back copies of the local papers in Enniskillen library but you have to in person to look them up. You don’t say what the family occupation was but if they were labourers (as most of the population were) they probably couldn’t afford a gravestone.

Very few options for getting back earlier than 1845, unless the family were well off in which case they might appear in land records etc.

Hi,

I would not go to the GRONI for certificates pre 1922. Go the Irish Republic site http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie They have embarked on a fantastic endeavour to make digital copies of all b/m/d certificates before certain dates - pre 1922 includes all of Northern Ireland as well. You can view and download the copies for free. There is a limited amount of church records also available. At present all birth certifciates from 1864 are online. Marriages at present only go back to 1882 - to view (but you can still search the index back to 1845). Deaths are also a work in progress as far as the copies are concerned.

Bob Graham

Thank you for all this additional information. From what you are all advsing it looks like I am probably not going to find the marriage for John Cranston and Ellen McCabe and get any further back . That is a shame but i should imagine a lot of people have been limited this way when researching Irish ancestors.

Dear Daljul:

There may be other avenues open in order to get back further with your research as others stated above.

Taking the area's local history into account, you might try to see if there is a local history society or group in the Tempo/Edenmore area.  In addition, the search of local graveyards through online sources may also be useful, as well as some newspaper research.

The very best of luck with your research and please get back to us if you have any further questions.  Please keep checking back or turn on notifications with regard to your post as you never know--someone might have further information or be researching the same family.

All the best,

Jane.

Jane,

Thank you for your very helpful reply.

I will try the rescources you suggest to hopefully fill the gaps in the Vranston family history.

Hi daljul,

John Cranston is my 4 x great grandfather. His son Patrick moved to Fleetwood, and Patrick’s daughter Ann is my great great grandmother. Her son John Murphy was born in Blackburn, Lancashire and served in WW1 with the 1st Battalion of the Irish Guards and was killed in May 1915.