Farrell

Hi Angela

Warrington was a very popular place for emigrants fromthis area of east Galway Some were seasonal labourers working on the large farms close by and after Warrington started to expand with the Manchester ship canal it was a great source of employment

Dolan is a popular name in the area and there were Farrells and Flahertys as well 

I don't live in the area but will be there soon so will seewhat is in the parish records

Martin

Didn't the O'Farrell Clan come from West Meath ?

IrishHopkins

No They came from Longford which i found out by doing a quick google http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farrell_clan

Do you have any info that would help Angela's query ?

Martin

Sorry, no I don't, Martin.

I'm tracking the Irish Diaspora, looking for my Hopkins.

In reading in the Anulls of the Four Masters, I noticed a family, tied with the OFarrell clan of West Meath, whos name was later translated to Hopkins. After the death of the king, many in the clan scattered, but not all. The highest concentration of Hopkins is in Co Mayo.

Having run my dna to help solve this mystery, my matches in Co's Mayo and Roscommon, do not match any other Hopkins in Ireland, Scotland, England or as yet Wales, nor do I have the Viking gene. The dna is showing some very interesting groupings that are distinct. Mine is of the Northwest Irish Group.

Since Family Tree DNA did a seminar in the UK after the show, "Who Do You Think You Are?", they lowered their $99 12 marker test for men to $39. We  expected it to end in February but it was still available earlier today. The sale will a lot to further our knowledge of the area's population. As you may know, the Y in a male doesn't change in 300-500 years, and is passed from father to son. This makes it great for surname research. With the intermixing of people and their movements, plus the lack of paper trails, DNA research is essential.

I'm sorry I couldn't help Angela's specific question, but I had hoped my question may help her and others with their research, in another way.  Perhaps I failed.

Patrick

Patrick

Ireland Reaching Out is staffed by parish volunteers whose purpose is to look at where the disapora from their parish ended up and reach out to their descendants as well as answer queries from people who have links to their parish and try and get them linked to their ancestral home village

It is not a genealogical service and cannot assist people with too broad a question Places like Ancestry or paid genealogists would be more appropiate for that 

On your Hopkins query if you have any connection to Co Mayo or Roscommon there are county query pages where it may be taken up by a volunteer However as it is volunteers you would need to have more specific information eg names and locations

As for DNA it is not an exact science and especially when you have no paper trail it can be meaningless This article suggests that the companies doing it rely on pretty big stretches of the genetic imagination to get profits rather than possible cousins : 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/9912822/DNA-ancestry-tests-branded-meaningless.html

I am unsure as to why you answered to the original post but I suggest that if you do have information that ties you to a paricular townland or parish that you post there and ask the volunteer if they can assist in their area

Best of luck

martin

Thanks Martin.
I'll take your schooling me to heart and try to do better.
I won't post anymore.

The article you reference is talking about autosomal testing and Not Y mapping of the earth's population.
I've never run an autosomal test for the very reasons mentioned in the article but there have been families reunited through it. Ancestry.com does not even release your test data back to you, so you can compare your numbers with known studies. Again, it's autosmal.

There is a huge difference between the three different types of dna testing. Each has their strengths and weaknesses. This article paints all dna research with the same brush and that's not accurate. There are huge differences and it's misleading at best to do what the author did. Truth be told, some well known histoies have been proven wrong by dna testing.

Having a warrior gene or whatever is not taken seriously by researchers in regards to family research. It is treated as a novelty, but to conclude the field of research has not yielded answers to many ancient questions is not true.

Research labs have been mapping the human population. Both through the male and female lines.
Have you heard of the "Seven Daughters of Eve" ?
Every woman on earth can be traced back to one of these 7 women.

The research is pear reviewed by scientists ! 

There are no substitutes for old fashioned research of paper trails. I've been doing it for some time.
My problem is with my grandfather's parents. DNA is my only solution at this point. The paper trail will follow after.

I'll leave this account open for a short time so you can contact me by e-mail, if you wish.
I'll then remove it.

Patrick

Thanks Martin,

I have a baptism certificate from Abbeyknockmoy. Father Joseph O'Brien sent it to me after I wrote to him.

James Farrell born 8th Oct 1871, father John, mother Catherine Doyle, sponsor, just the one, Bridget Mannion.

He also sent details of a Mary Farrell, born to this couple, 11th of 5th 1867.

I never heard of Mary, however in Warrington there was a brother John Joseph, who died aged 88 in 1963, meaning he was born around 1875.

I cannot prove that the James Farrell born 1871 is my ancestor, but a lot points that way.

I have the death certificate of Catherine Farrell in Warrington, 1911 aged70. She was the widow of John farrell a farmer.

the 1911 census shows John Farrell born Ryehill, Monivea with his mother Catherine, born Athenry.

It shows James as being born in Abbey.

Kevin Kelly from Kelly's bar in Abbeyknockmoy told us that No Farrells ever lived in Abbey, they were from down the road in Monivea, but said Dolans and Flahertys might have come from there.

Hi Angela

Just looked at the 1911 Warrington census and saw your John and others However I could not see James mentioned 

John is born in Ryehill as you said and it looks like that a possible father or grandfather lived in Knockbrack http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/galway/monivea.htm which is on the other side of Monivea

You seemto have done alot of research and found out good info When were you in Abbey?

Let me know if there is anything else that you need

As I said I am living outside Ireland at the moment but will see what I can do 

Martin

Myself and a group of cousins decided to go to Ireland in 2000, we stayed in Rathcabbin, Offally. This was because we had been researching our nanas side, Mockler. So we had a great time that year, went to Grangemockler and surrounding area.

 We decided to again the following Easter, we did this for a few years, we stayed in Headford the year of foot and mouth, so we had the full week in Galway. Another time we stayed in Mullingar, that was for a gathering.

We haven't been for a few years now due to family commitments, but will return at some stage.