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I'm trying to flush out a bit of information on a few ancestors from Killorglin (presumably).

 

I have a Tim Moriarty born in 1754 (exactly where in Ireland is currently unknown), who married a woman with the surname Crimmins.

They had at least two children: John and Patrick.

John was born in the late 18th century and had a son named Patrick (but that's as far as that branch goes in our records).

More importantly, Tim's son Patrick (John's brother) is one I'm trying to track down a bit more. Patrick was born in 1787, married a County Kerry woman named Mary Sullivan (her father was a Donald Sullivan) in 1820. Our records show them having seven children: John T. Moriarty (born early 19th century), Timothy Moriarty (born 11 Feb 1824), Julia Moriarty (born 1831), Mary Moriarty (born 11 Jan 1833), Margaret Moriarty (born 1836), Patrick P. Moriarty (born 23 April 1837), and Catherine Moriarty (born circa 1840).

 

We know for sure that Patrick P. Moriarty was born in Killorglin, but unsure on the majority if it was Killarney or Killorglin.

smoriarty

Thursday 2nd Aug 2012, 04:22PM

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  • Hi Shaun,

     

    You could try checking the land records called the Tithe Applotment Books (1823-38) or the later Griffith's Valuation (1848-64). The Tithe Applotment Books (1823-38): Microfilm copies of the books for all of Ireland are available at the National Archives of Ireland (NAI) http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy1/genealogy-records/tithe-applotment-books-and-the-primary-griffith-valuation/ or the Church of Latter Day Saints (LDS). Griffith's is freely available here: www.askaboutireland.com or here: www.failteromhat.com Failte Romhat has lots of other useful links you could try looking at. The Tithe Applotment List might be of use to you, or at least interesting for you. These lists constitute the only nationwide survey for the period, and are valuable because the heaviest burden of the tithes to the Established Church, the Church of Ireland, fell on the poorest, for whom few other records survive. The information in the Tithes is quite basic, typically consisting of townland name, landholder's name, area of land and tithes payable. Many Books also record the landlord's name and an assessment of the economic productivity of the land. The tax payable was based on the average price of wheat and oats over the seven years up to 1823, and was levied at a different rate depending on the quality of land. For Parishes where the registers do not begin until after 1850, this information can be useful, as they are often the only surviving early records. They can provide valuable circumstantial evidence, especially where a holding passed from father to son in the period between the Tithe survey and Griffith's Valuation.

     

    Also the 1796: Spinning Wheel Premium Entitlement Lists may be of use in locating additional information given that your relatives were living during the time of the scheme. This was part of a government scheme to encourage the linen trade, free spinning wheels or looms were granted to individuals planting a certain area of land with flax. The lists of those entitled to the awards, covering almost 60,000 individuals, were published in 1796, and record only the names of the individuals and the civil parish in which they lived. The majority, were in Ulster, but some names appear from every county except Dublin and Wicklow. A microfiche index to the lists is available in the National Archives, and in Public Records of Northern Ireland. 

    I wish you the best of luck in your search. 

     

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    cynoconnor

    Friday 10th Aug 2012, 03:30PM
  • Hi Shaun,

    I am wondering if you have more information about the Timothy Moriarty, son of Patrick, born 11 Feb 1824.  My husband has a great-grandfather Timothy born in that time period, who married a Margaret McCarthy.  We know he came from Kerry, but not sure which parish.  Timothy emigrated to the US in 1853 and settled in NYC. We have lots of info about the family once they were here, but not much at all from Ireland.

    Thanks,

    Nancy

     

     

    Nancy

    Thursday 27th Dec 2018, 03:46PM

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