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When Bridget O'Neill was married in 1844 in Marysville, Ontario, Canada her parents are listed as James O'Neill and Margaret Ring of Thomastown, Co. Kilkenny, Ireland.  While researching the Thomastown parish records there were entries for James Neil/Nail/Nelle and Margaret/Peggy Ring of Thomastown.  

 

Baptism records show a Bridget Niel, baptised 30 Oct 1812, parents James Niel and Margaret Ring at Thomastown, sponsors Edmund Gaul and Bridget Riley/Reilly.

 

Three other names have been found in the Thomastown parish records as well:

Margaret Nelle baptized May 20, 1802 parents James Nelle and Margaret Ring.  Sponsors Thomas Naile and Mary Cahill.

Michael Nail baptized Oct 29, 1806 parents James Nail and Peggy Ring.  Sponsors ?Nell Cahill and Mary Riley.

Michael Neil baptized Apr 25, 1810 parents James Neil and Margt. King.  Sponsors John Reilly and Mary ?Shorthal.

 

A witness to Bridget O'Neilll and George Howson's marriage in 1844 in Marysville, was John Gaul.  In researching the Thomastown Kilkenny parish records a Mary Gaul was baptized Nov 10, 1806 and the parents are listed as Edmund Gaul and Jenny King.  On 7 Feb 1793 an Edmund Gaul married Joane Ring.  It is possible that the Gaul family is related to the O'Neill family.  Margaret Ring and Joane/Jenny Ring could be sisters or cousins.

 

I also found this inscription on the Thomastown inscriptions list

Neill: Erected by James Neill of Smithstown in memory of his wife Margaret Neil alias Ring who departed this life January 6th 1844 aged 68 years. [Colmkill]

 

 I would like to know when and where James Neil and Margaret Ring were born and married.

 

Jerri

 

jerrigri

Thursday 10th Nov 2016, 01:54PM

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  • Hi Jerri

    The marriage record is on www.rootsireland.ie/

    25 July 1799

    Parish/District Thomastown

    James Naile. Margaret Ring

    Address for both Smithtown

    Religion R C

    No ages or parents' names given I'm afraid.

    There isn't a Thomastown birth/baptism for James.

    No luck with Margaret either

    Col

    ColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Friday 11th Nov 2016, 08:20AM

  • Thanks, Col.  I appreciate your help.

     

    Jerri

    jerrigri

    Monday 21st Nov 2016, 02:18PM

  • Hi Jerri and Col:  I am interested in this post as my gr.gr. grandfather Patrick Walsh, was born in Mong, Thomastown, and settled around Marysville, Ontario (1803-1875).   He is buried in the Marysville Cemetery.   Also, his mother's name is Mary Reilly. We also have Walsh ancestors buried in Colmkill.    Unfortunately I don't see any Neil's or Rings in my family, although my mother was a friend of an Anna Wringe in Marysville when we lived there. 

    So, unfortunately, while I can't add to your history, I love the coincidence that we are looking in the same areas, and our families likely knew each other a couple hundred years ago. 

     

    Mary Beth Raycroft

    Ontario, Canada

    MRaycroft

    Thursday 29th Dec 2016, 08:15PM

  • Hi Mary Beth:

    Do you have any Hamilton or Flood names from Kilkenny?  Michael Neil/O'Neill born abt 1810, parents James Neil and Margaret Ring, also came to Belleville.  He married a Margaret Hamilton b  abt1828 who was also from Kilkenny.  Her parents were Patrick Hamilton and Margaret Flood.  I  believe Patrick and Margaret Hamilton  lived in Belleville.

     

    Jerri

    jerrigri

    Saturday 7th Jan 2017, 12:33PM

  • Hi Jerri:  Sorry, I haven't yet connected with either Hamiltons or Floods -- but I'll keep them in mind. 

    Mary Beth

    MRaycroft

    Sunday 8th Jan 2017, 04:29PM

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