My Grandfather, John Joseph Kilbane was born in Kiltoghert parish, County Leitrim, on 16 May 1864 (Catholic Parish Registers NLI online Microfilm 04240 / 02). His parents were Michael Kilbane & Anne Foley (married 03 Mar 1859 in Cootehall, Roscommon, Ireland (Catholic Parish Registers, NLI, online Microfilm 04612/01). He immigrated to the United States in 1881 with his sister, Margaret (10 Aug 1862). on the ship Wyoming. The passenger list shows the last name spelled as Gilbane. [Note: as I have browsed through the Parish Registers I have found both spellings, although Kilbane is found more often. One of my questions is which spelling is correct or is this just a difference in the Gaelic language compared to English?]. I have documented an older brother, Thomas (21 Dec 1859), and two younger siblings, Mary (18 Dec 1865) and Patrick (18 Jan 1867).
I’ve been going through the Kiltoghert microfilm records trying to find and record all instances of the Kilbane/Gilbane surname in order to get an idea of how many Kilbane/Gilbane families lived in the area and hopefully see how the families relate to one another. I’m hoping to do the same with some of the surrounding parishes as well (if my eyes hold up to job!!).
Is anyone in the Ireland Reaching Out community familiar with the Kilbane/Gilbane families from County Leitrim? I know there is/was a larger number of families with the same surname in County Mayo, but all of the information I have from records show that the families I’m most interested in are from Leitrim, mainly in the areas around Carrick-on-Shannon.
Thanks,
Eileen Gilbane Miller
librarylady99@gmail.com
Sunday 26th Feb 2017, 06:27PM
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Eileen:
Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!
We only have one parish liaison in a different parish.
I believe Gilbane and Kilbane are interchangeable. The RC parish register may show more Kilbanes compared to Gilbanes but the 1901 census showed the opposite with nine Gilbane families and one Kilbane family.
I looked on Roots Ireland and unless there were two Michael Kilbane/Gilbane-Anne Foley couples, there were at least nine children born to your Michael and Anne: Thomas 1859 Catherine 1861 Margaret 1862 John 1864 Mary A. 1865 Patrick 1867 Anne 1868 Mary 1868 (twins) Bridget 1870. I believe the family lived in Aughriman South townland. This may be the 1901 census record for Anne with two of her sons. Note Anne was born in Co. Roscommon. http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Leitrim/Carrick_on_Shannon…
I don't see Anne in the 1911 census.
www.irishgenealogy.ie is down today so I can't search for death records for Anne and Michael.
Roger McDonnell
Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Eileen:
Michael died in 1899. Anne died in 1909 and he daughter Bridget (born 1870) was the informant. You will have to sign-in to see the records.
Roger
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_retu…
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_retu…
Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Roger,
Thank you so much for the quick reply and especially for the death records from the Irish National Archives. I have the marriage record for Michael & Anne Foley, so I was aware that she was born in Roscommon, since marriages were commonly performed in the bride's parish. As I mentioned in my original post, I've been going through the Kiltoghert Catholic Parish Registers name by name, so I have of most of the children, but I've only gone through @ half of the available microfilm, so I'm sure I'll find the younger ones. I do have a subscription to rootsireland.ie and use both databases a lot cross checking records
The one record that I have an issue with is the 1901 Census that shows Anne Gilbane as head of the House and her two sons, Patrick (32) and John (35). The ages do coincide with the son's birth birth dates and I've looked at the record many times But by the date of the census my Grandfather, John Gilbane, had already immigrated to the USA (in 1885, with his sister, Margaret), so I'm at a loss to explain how John is also in the Irish Census records in 1901. To quote the King (in the King & I ) - "It's a puzzlement!!"
Again, thank you for all the information. It's always good to have someone check your work and confirm the results are correct or in error, if that's the case. Either way, I do appreciate the time you took looking into my Father's family and replying to my posts.
Regards,
Eileen Gilbane Miller
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Eillen:
That is very strange! Out of curiousity, did John marry before 1901 here in the States?
FYI I live near Baltimore.
Roger
Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Hi Roger,
No, John married in 1906 in RhodeIsland http://person.ancestry.com/tree/105705499/person/190048290567
and became a US Citizen in 1907, also in Rhode Island http://interactive.ancestry.com/61208/007766246_00963/59332?backurl=http://person.ancestry.com/tree/105705499/person/190048290568/facts/citation/680170035328/edit/record
I think I see where you are going, I've considered that John may have gone back to Ireland to see his Mother and happened to be in the house the day/night of the Census (I'm a retired Reference Librarian - I read Everything on the page!). Guess I need to go look into Ship passenger lists again. From what I've been able to tell, He always went by John Joseph, or John J., from the time he arrived in the USA. I know there was at least one other John Gilbane in Providence, RI. and possibly more. Also a couple more in Missouri (I'm pretty sure the Missouri Gilbanes immigrated from County Mayo ). Irish naming paterns drive me crazy! Too many of the same names, over & over & over....
I'll keep you informed, if I come across anything useful.
Eileen
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Eileen:
Right! We are on the same page. Both of my grandmothers came to Philadelphia and then returned back to Ireland before they returned again to Philadelphia.I have another family situation where someone had emigrated to Michigan in the 1860s but made a return trip to Ireland to see family right before the 1911 census and she was shown on the census return with her sister in Roscommon.
Roger
Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Eileen, My great grandmother was Mary Gilbane. She was Irish Catholic and born circa 1842 in Leitrim County. She married Farrell Ward (Born circa 1840) and had children: Owen, Patrick, and possibly Michael and John.
She also had a set of twins: Anne and Farrell Ward. The twins were born 23 Apr 1888, in County Leitrim, Carrick on Shannon.
I wonder if she is related to your John Gilbane?
Rhonda S
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Hello Eileen,
I have your grandfather in my ancestry tree as Gilbane. Do you have a tree anywhere? Also, have you done DNA or gedmatch? He relates to my moms side, Mahon. Via a marriage to a Cronogue
Regards, Annie
Annie
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Annie,
My maternal great great grandparents were John Ward, Sr and Jane (or Jeane - Irish version) Mahon.
They had at least 7 children that I know of...
I believe that one of their children, Farrell Ward (1838-1918), was my great grandfather.
His daughter Annie Ward (Twin -> 1887-1964) was my grandmother.
Are you familiar with any of these? :)
Rhonda S