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John Mclean born in Ireland (+/- 1yr) 1750 ( No info on parents or baptism). Moved to England where some files indicate him marrying Mary and having one child named Thomas. Later moved to Pennslyvania, USA where he was conscripted in American War. Left USA to pledge allegiance to the king and lived the remainder of his years within southern Ontario Canada where he was known as a Loyalist. His first wife some say maiden name was never recovered but that she left him when he became ill and he later had more children with another. Wadoup is a maiden name for Mary I pulled off a marriage certificate in England in 1776. No witnesses or parents names just the years seem to match up. I want to find out where, if in Ulster John was born and his parents names. Story behind them leaving Scotland to settle in Ireland. Thank you for any info you may have.

Friday 14th Jul 2017, 02:39AM

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  • Hi J & D,

    I searched on www.rootsireland.ie/ for John McLean (+ surname variants) birth/baptism 1750 + - 3 years in all counties and got this one:

    Name:John LyneDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:23-Jun-1747Address:
    Parish/District:ST. MARY'SGender:UnknownCountyCo. Limerick
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:Matthew LyneMother:Julianna Muloy

    I am not sute whether Lyne is a variation or earlier version of McLean

    Col

    ColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Friday 14th Jul 2017, 05:43AM
  • Hi JandDMclean. when I hear about Irish ancestors immigrating to the American Colonies at that time, I tend to think of them as from Ulster or Northern Ireland – rather than from a southern county like Limerick.  

    A big clue is you said, "Story behind them leaving Scotland to settle in Ireland."  Also, you said that they moved from Ireland to England and supported the King in the Colonies, which is evidence to me that they were Protestant.  Was this English marriage certificate you referred to Protestant?  That would be another clue that they were Scotch-Irish (as we call Ulster Irish in the States), which as you know, is an ethnic group in Northern Ireland who trace their roots to settlers from Scotland.  Here is some info about Irish American history to 1845.  See the second section called "Irish American history: 1720-1790":  http://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/Irish-American-history.html

    Joan in Los Angeles

    Joan Stewart Smith

    Friday 14th Jul 2017, 05:08PM
  • Thank you so much Col and Joan! I appreciate you taking time to help us and I hope this helps me narrow in with my research as I have hit a brick wall the last few months. -John and Danielle

     

     

    Friday 3rd Nov 2017, 02:21AM
  • Joan, I looked more closely at John and Mary's marriage certificate which states they were wed in Middleton Cheney, Northamptonshire, England, Church of England Records.​ and their son Thomas was baptised at Newington Chapel. ​After looking I believe in that century at those locations/records that they were most likely protestant. I never thought to look at the information from that angle. Thank you. If you think of any other resources I could prowl through let me know! Thanks.                       John and Danielle

     

    Friday 3rd Nov 2017, 02:44AM
  • Hi John and Danielle,

    It's challenging to research that far back in Irish records, although St. Mary's in Limerick (as CalCaff's research showed) does go back farther than most. But that's a Catholic church, and your Irish ancestors were Protestant, as the marriage certificate shows, and most likely from up north.   Since my Irish ancestors were from southern Ireland, I'm not as fluent in Ulster research, but you may want to check a link out like this "Best sites for Northern Ireland genealogy research":  http://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/Northern-Ireland-genealogy.html  I haven't tried any of those links, but it may give you some ideas about your next step, which would be a way to identify which part of Northern Ireland they came from, if possible.   Hope that helps!  

    Best, Joan :-)

     

     

    Joan Stewart Smith

    Monday 6th Nov 2017, 11:58PM
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    Hi l have reason to believe that John McLean spoke about in the above posts is my 5 times Great Grandfather. I would be really interested in any information anyone may have regarding him or his family

    JoyA. 

     

     

    Sunday 11th Feb 2018, 07:16PM

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