Sheahan's in Shanagolden

Barbara:

I located an 1830 Tithe record for a James Sheahan in Srulawn townland Shanagolden parish. I think a later spelling of the townland is Sroolane. This record may pertain to your ancestor.

Roger McDonnell

http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004625717/00…

there is no Church Records for Shanagolden Before 1824.

Look up on line,

Shanagolden Parish List of Sources,

Select,

List of Sources-Irish Family history Foundation.

look up on line,

Shanagolden Parish Townlands,

select,

Shanagolden Church-Dioces of Limerick Heritage Project,

Scrowl down to view the Townlands.

there is no record of the Marriage.

there is 4 baptisms recorded for

James Sheahan & Mary (Maria) Sheahan,

the priest Recorded (Maria) Latin for mary.

Baptisms,

James 1824,

Daniel 1827,

John 1830,

Cath. 1832.

regards

John.

Rodger,

Thank you for this information.  I also have a note of a Jeremiah Sheahan at West Craves in the civil parish of Dunmoylan (who might be the father of James); a James at Crohan, Robertsown and anopther at Mungret.   I have yet to determine how far these places are from one another.  The hardest for me to comprehend is distance.  I know the children went to school in Shanagolden but I have no idea how far the average student came to the school.

The document you sent regarding Scroolan also listed the name Madigan, which is a name that I find as a sponsor on one baptismal record that I do have.

I greatly appreciate your time on this

Barbara

Dear Barbara

In relation to school; it is difficult to gauge by today's standards. Bicycles were a luxury to a great extent so walking to mass and to school would have been the norm. Many children would have walked barefoot in the summer, usually across the fields. 

Let us know if you learn anything new, we like to hear news on research!

Best wishes

Clare Doyle

Genealogy Support 

I am a descendant of James and Mary Sheahan and have been able to track them to Babcock's Grove, now Lombard, Illinois. My lineage is through the marriage of their grandchildren (first cousins) Daniel (John's son) and Elizabeth (Patrick's daughter). Their son Clarence was my grandfather. I have compiled some information and might be able to help with information you are looking for.

Terry

I am a descendant of James and Mary Sheahan and have been able to track them to Babcock's Grove, now Lombard, Illinois. My lineage is through the marriage of their grandchildren (first cousins) Daniel (John's son) and Elizabeth (Patrick's daughter). Their son Clarence was my grandfather. I have compiled some information and might be able to help with information you are looking for.

Terry

I believe Jeremiah, is the Latin for Dermot,

There is a Townland in Askeaton Parish Not far from Shanagolden Village,

Name Creeves Cross, that might be the modern name for Weat Craves,

Regards

John

Hi Barbara,

I am the Parish Liaison for Shanagolden Parish (Ireland Reaching Out.)

I did some looking for you yesterday - census rcds and such - but the surname was too common, and there were a million Sheahans!

Then I got the idea to search for Clarence, thinking it would be an uncommon first name. BINGO!

There is a tree at Ancestry - The Strauss-Kingsbury Family Tree - and the owner is tracing your family. He also has a bit more info than you do. The owner, rkings3331, shows that Jerimiah Sheahan born 1748 and Mary Ragan 1792-1862 were the parents of James Sheahan b 1785 Shanagolden (died 1 Apr 1868 Lombard, Dupage Co, Illinois.) Jerimiah b 1748 and Mary Ragan b 1792 had 12 children according to this tree.

I see that the dates of birth for James do not match exactly your dates, but the names of the siblings do: Jeremiah b 1814; Mary b 1816; Morris b 1817; John J b 1818; Honorah b 1820; Mary b 1820; James b 1825; Daniel Sr. b 1827; Hannah b 1832; Catherine b 1834; Philip b 1837 and Patrick b 1838.

I suggest you view this tree and make contact with the owner. This tree appears to be very well sourced - obits, tombstone photo's, etc.

It is very difficult to get further back than about 1810 when conducting Irish research - there just aren't any rcds unless your family was gentry. That rkings3331 has been able to get back to 1748 is admirable!

By the way, I searched Ancestry.com family trees for Clarence Sheahan.There are MANY trees that show a Clarence Sheahan. I would suggest you conduct this same search, and invest some time checking these public trees out too.I'd be willing to guess you'll learn more details about your family.

Best wishes,

Patti Hacht

Lakeville, Michigan  USA

Hi Patti,

Thank you for your post.  I am familiar with Strauss-Kingbury tree.   She got most of her obits, cemetary pictures and newspaper articles from me.    I would have to differ about her accuracy of anything earlier than 1900's.   After this date it is easy to research simply with Ancestry.   She often fills in dates to "fit", so her tree looks complete.   I have written to her about this and this is why my tree is no longer public.  I have many more documents than she has access to. 

I have been to Shanagolden twice  as I am an anthropologist, and workied with a professional in Ireland to verify information as well.  Unfortunately there are no church records prior to 1840, as the old church burned down.   The school as no records that far back.   I doubt Riking 331 has solid documentation on anything as far back as 1700 as she does not verify sources.   You can only get certain information by going to  the Library in Dublin and sifting through their restricted files.   It was a lengthy process to say the least.  I wish more were on-line, but not sure if it ever will be.

I did alot of research on the SHEAHAN FAMILY LEGAND and there is absolutely no documetaion that Jeremiah was scheduled for execution.  I did  extensive resesearch on executions in Ireland and England and there is no record at all, not even in the newspapers.  Plus I have a passenger manifest showing passage of Jeremiah with his wife, Jane coming over to to Quebec. 

I will look into Clarence.  I have researched Lord Montegue and the Rice family who owned the land and see if it shows a tenant by that name.   I do not recall seeing one.   James and Mary were most likely from Shanagolden/Askeaton area and not Thurles as there is no record of our family in that area.  I found only a few in Thurles, while Shanagolden and Askeaton had a large number.  Clarence is not a common name in our family and I would have expected that James and Mary would have followed common naming practices and named their first son Clarence.   Naming practice would say that James father was  named Jeremiah, and Marys; father would have been Morris.   I have also worked off the names of sponsors listed on the few solid baptisimal records I have hoping to make more connection.  Often times, the reords do have inaccurare dates and spellings, as even the people themselves had no idea how to spell their name.

It never hurts to revisit a lead.  I have not looked at rkings tree in a while as I get upset by inaccuracies.

Thanks

Barbara

I can certainly understand your anger at having your data corrupted by someone who refuseds to document! I do not even have a tree posted for that very reason, so I totally "get it." I would suggest that you look at her tree again though - there might be some new "kernel of truth" there that deems investigating.

P.S. - I didn't say anything about your cousin's accuracy! I said her tree was well-sourced! (So YOU did a great job, Barbara!)

I was unaware of the Jerimiah Sheahan "legend", so I cannot comment on it. Have you looked through the penal rcds that are online? (I don't recal any inmates being sent to Canada, though. . .)

I have all three of the Monteagle emigration books. I will make a point of going through them this week to see if I can find some of your family. There are about 30 Sheahan entries in West Limerick Abroad alone! Probably 70 in Poverty to Promise, Chris O'Mahony's book. So it will take awhile. I'll get back to you, probably as I go through each book.

Patti

Patti,

Thanks for your quick reply!   I will double check because often you can find a tidbit that makes sense once you have found another tidbit.

That would be  GREAT if you have the Monteagle emegration books!  I do realize the numbers of Sheahan's you are working with.  I also think the two spellings were interchanged from time to time and we see the name, or some form of it, spelled all kinds of ways.  They did inter-marry too....  I have found that often people say they were from Limerick, meaning the county and often not specific about the town.  I suspect you are well versed in this .  Always a hunt

I did look through the penal records with no luck.   I think you are right that inmates were  not sent to Canada.

PS sorry I mis- interpreted the meaning, well sourced is different.   rking married into the Sheahan's and I think she knows more about the Kingburry side.

Barbara

Barbara, just a quick question for you. Do you think there's any (or much) possibility that Sheahan could also be spelled "Sheehy?"

I'll probably start going through the Monteagle books tonight. If you can send me your email address, I can send you copies of pages that might be "hits." (I've had almost zero luck loading pages of info to the IrelandXO reply pages.) Email me directly at: Duncaha@gmail.com

Thanks!

Patti

Hi Barbara,

I think these Sheahan's connect with mine. The same couple Matthew Madigan and Catherine Sheahan appear as sponsors to one of the Grady children that belongs in my tree. I also have a line of Sheahans with the same Christian names that appear in you line. A Phillip, Jeremiah, Daniel amongst others. They came from Corgrig and are part of the wider John Hurley family who was transported to Australia on the 'Prince Regent'. John's sister married John Phillip Sheahan and he is buried in the Knockpatrick Cemetery. I think the parents are John Sheahan and Sarah Hastings. I think the grandfather is Jeremiah.

Cheryl Davidson

Hello Cheryl,

Thank you so much for your post.  I will definately check out this lead of Corgig.  There are so many Sheahan's that is difficult to be sure one has the right line.  I plan to be in Ireland in a few weeks and can possibily check out the Knockpatrick Cemetery.

Barbara

Cheryl,

Do you happen to have a birth or a death date on John Phillip Sheahan?  Do you have any family info on Sarah hastings?

Thanks

Barbara

Hi Barbara,

I'm not a 100% sure whether his name is John Phillip Sheahan or just Philip Sherahan. I tend to think he might be just Phillip. He was born about 1791 in Corgig, Shaanagolden and died Dec 1871 maybe 7th. Buried in Knockpatrick Cemetery. He married Mary Hurley daughter of John  Hurley and Mary Hassett (there is some doubt about Mary's surname. I think it could be Naughton later marryting a Hassett). Her brother John was transported on the 'Prince Regent' for Insurrection. Some of the siblings I have been able to identify. Johanna Sheahan a sister married Riochard Mangan. Bridget Sheahan who married John O'Connor. Bridget & John are buried in Knockpatrick too. There is a brother Pierce Sheahan, another brother James and a sister Margaret Sheahan who married James Mulcare. I think there may be other siblings. I don't know much about the parents but I think there may be a memorial valut at Knockpatrick cemetery.

Cheryl

Hi Barbara,

Greetings from Ireland

My name is John O'Connell, I an one of the researchers in the Shanagolden Area on Ireland Reaching out, i would like to meet up with you & take you to visit Knockpatrick Cemetery, as i only 10 Miles, 30 Minute drive from Knockpatrick.

you can email me at (tamerkine589@yahoo.ie)

Regards

John