James Lavelle b.1854 poss Achill

Hi Ed . . . Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out . . . 

I'm not sure I can help you . . as I am geographically far remove d from Achill // Mayo  . . . and not familiar with that area . .

I found the presentation confusing . . . so . . I just ask a few questions  . . 

On ' Roots' . . when you brought up John's birth . . 28 Feb.1873 . .Parents Thomas // Kate. . .  did you notice a very small notation at the bottom . . 

stating that ther was a Michael Lavelle present at the birth   ???

Who was this Michael Lavelle . . . and why the notation . . . ???

Was he Thomas's Father ??? 

If he was Thomas's father . . . then when you search 1901 Census . . for Michael lavelle;s in Mayo ( aged approx. 60+)

You will find a number of Achill Island . . Michael's  (see)

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?searchMoreVisi…

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Map . . . http://www.logainm.ie/en/s?txt=slievemore&str=on

http://www.logainm.ie/en/1414508?s=dooega

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I.m not sure if this is helpful . . or contributes more confusion . . . 

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Maybe Ireland Reaching Out might have a Volunteer . . in that specific area . . but who . . to date . . has not picked up on the query  . . . 

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Clare Doyle is the chief in charge @ I.R.O. . . . who maybe can alert a Mayo volunteer.

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Cheers

Cheers and thank you Eamonn for your kind reply, yes I did see that Michael Lavelle notation but can't explain it.

I don't know this John is certainly my g g grandfather's (James) brother, just that the year 1873 and parents' names fit with info I've confirmed on Scottish censuses and James' death certificate.

Interesting James' first child, born in 1879, was named Michael.

Thank you again for taking the time to respond.

Kind regards, Ed.

Hi again Ed.. . 

Further searching on Ancestry.com. . . . turned up . . (see)

Mary Welsh

 in the Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950

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Name:Mary Welsh    Gender:FemaleBirth Date:2 Mar 1858         Birth Place:High Church     ,Paisley,Renfrew,ScotlandFather:Edward Welsh      Mother      :Elizabeth Mingen      FHL Film Number:6035516

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Edward Walsh

 in the 1861 England Census

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Name:Edward WalshAge:28Estimated birth year:1833Relation:HeadSpouse's Name:Bridget WalshGender:MaleWhere born:IrelandCivil Parish:ManchesterEcclesiastical parish:St Jude and St SimonCounty/Island:LancashireCountry:England
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Registration district:ManchesterSub-registration district:London RoadED, institution, or vessel:5Neighbors:View others on pageHousehold schedule number:140Piece:2944Folio:109Page Number:30Household Members:NameAge    Edward Walsh28     Bridget Walsh26       Margaret Walsh        5Mary I Walsh3       Patrick Walsh10/12

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Michael Lavelle

 in the 1911 England Census

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Name:Michael LavelleAge in 1911:53Estimated birth year:abt 1858Relation to Head:HeadGender:MaleBirth Place:Mayo, IrelandCivil Parish:LeedsSearch Photos:Search for 'Leeds' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collectionCounty/Island:Yorkshire-West RidingCountry:EnglandStreet address:14 John St Holbeck LeedsMarital Status:MarriedOccupation:LabourerRegistration district:LeedsRegistration District Number:500Sub-registration district:South East LeedsED, institution, or vessel:3Piece:26918Household Members:NameAgeMichael Lavelle53Bridget Lavelle54May Lavelle16John Lavelle13Michael Lavelle50

Eamonn note  - - - (the last person listed above . . is an incorrect transcribe . . should read .Michael Folan/Tolan age 50 . . born Mayo . 

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Michael Lavelle

 in the 1891 England Census

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Name:Michael LavelleAge:30Estimated birth year:abt 1861Relation:HeadSpouse's Name:Bridget LavelleGender:MaleWhere born:Mayo, IrelandCivil Parish:LeedsEcclesiastical parish:ChristchurchCounty/Island:YorkshireCountry:England
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Registration district:LeedsSub registration district:South East LeedsED, institution, or vessel:3Neighbors:View others on pagePiece:3683Folio:41Page Number:10Household Members:NameAgeMichael Lavelle30Bridget Lavelle35John Lorton20William Davitt30

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James Lavelle

 in the 1891 Scotland Census

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Name:James LavelleAge:35Estimated birth year:abt 1856Relationship:HeadSpouse's name :Mary LavelleGender:MaleWhere born:IrelandRegistration Number:573Registration district:PaisleyCivil Parish:Paisley High ChurchCounty:RenfrewshireAddress:No 2 West BrueOccupation:General LabED:32Household schedule number:58LINE:15Roll:CSSCT1891_189Household Members:NameAgeJames Lavelle35Mary Lavelle33Michael Lavelle13James Lavelle3Edward Lavelle1John Lavelle18Patrick Mailley27Michael D Connor2

Eamonn note  . . . ( I'm guessing that the John Lavelle . . aged 18 . . is NOT a brrother ( too big aa gap) . . but rather a Boarder//Cousin + others

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James Lavelle

 in the Cuyahoga County, Ohio, Marriage Records and Indexes, 1810-1973

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Name:James LavelleMarriage Date:23 Apr 1918Form Type:MarriageAge:30Gender:MaleBirth Year:abt 1888Birth Place:ScotlandFather:JamesMother:Mary WalshSpouse:Anne ForrySpouse Age:32Spouse Birth Year:abt 1886Spouse Father:JamesSpouse Mother:Mary Johnson

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James Lavelle

 in the 1920 United States Federal Census

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Name:James Lavelle
[James Lavell] Age:32Birth Year:abt 1888Birthplace:ScotlandHome in 1920:Cleveland Ward 8, Cuyahoga, OhioStreet:Fulton RoadHouse Number:1731Race:WhiteGender:MaleImmigration Year:1911Relation to Head of House:HeadMarital Status:MarriedSpouse's Name:Anne LavelleFather's Birthplace:Ireland
[Scotland] Mother's Birthplace:ScotlandNative Tongue:EnglishAble to Speak English:YesOccupation:Bricklayer Of BuildingsEmployment Field:Wage or SalaryNaturalization Status:NaturalizedNeighbors:View others on pageHousehold Members:NameAgeJames Lavelle32Anne Lavelle34

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Hope the above will shine some light on your continued search  

Cheers

Thanks Eamonn really appreciated.

Hello Ed,

This is my first time on this site and I have been trawling it for hours. I am sure I have seen a post on here from yourself that states you are related to Martin Mangan & Sarah Gavin and John Mangan & Catherine Lavelle I hope this is correct and I'm not wasting your time. All 4 of them are my 4 times Great Grandparents. Only yesterday, after nearly 12 years of researching did I find out my Great Great Grandfathers place of baptism and hopefully birth. Doocastle, Co Mayo.  I have been looking for years for 4 names, Mangan, Lavelle, Gallagher and Kennedy. They seem to have all left Clew Bay, Co Mayo for seasonal work in Paisley, Scotland and then came back to Achill. Year after year they repeated this, until I don't know when. Everyone seemed to settle in Paisley or so I thought!! Any information you have would be greatfully appreciated and anything I can let you know, please just ask. Helen.

By the way... My Gt Gt Grandmother was Bridget Mangan too... Born Achill Island!

Hi Helen,

Really interesting reading your post. Your great great grandmother called Bridget Mangan, whom did she marry and which of her children do you trace back to her through? 

The names John Mangan and Catherine Lavelle may have been my Bridget Welsh (nee Mangan)'s parents... I only know them as John and Catherine Mangan...my Bridget Welsh (nee Mangan) moved to Paisley with Edward Welsh and had among other children, my great great great grandmother Mary Welsh b.1858.

Best regards 

Ed

There's a lady that posts here called Jacqueline who I think may have those names. I'll email her and let her know you were asking about John Mangan/Carherine Lavelle...

There's a lady that posts here called Jacqueline who I think may have those names. I'll email her and let her know you were asking about John Mangan/Carherine Lavelle...

Morning Ed, 

Sorry for the late reply, I know of Jacqueline we seem to find each other every few years!

My Mom went to Paisley a few years back to see family and she met up with one of the mutual cousins.

The Bridget in my tree married my Gt Gt Grandad, James Kennedy. I do know that he died in February 1916. Sudden Death, at the Paisley Gasworks. My Gt Grandad was John Kennedy and guess what? My Grandad was another James!! both born in Paisley.

Now Bridget's parents were Michael and Mary Mangan, and Mangan was Mary's surname before marriage. Mary's parents were John Mangan and Catherine Lavelle, all of them were born on Achill. I am aware that they had Michael and Patrick as well as Mary but thats where my research ends. I hit a brick wall years ago and felt defeated. 

Helen.

Hi!  I am always excited to see people post about the Lavelle family, especially when they post about those in Cleveland.  I have Lavelle ancestors in Cleveldn as well.  I still have to sift through all of the information you have posted, but I live in Sandusky, Ohio, and I attached my Lavelle info to this post. I hope we are able to connect!

Have you completed a DNA test?  If so, maybe we can discover if we are connected that way. I did 23andme, but I also put my information on some other free DNA sites.

Hope to hear back from you soon!

Tina Showalter

Hello, my name is Heather. I am searching for any familiy connections still on Achill Island.

My maternal grandmother was Bridget O'Malley (born in Keel (East) 5/12/1911, died 2/4/1973, her brothers were...John O'Malley born in 1907, Thomas O'Malley born in 1913, James O'Malley born in 1919).

Her parents were Bridget Lavelle (born in Keel 12/3/1878, died 1951) and Anthony O'Malley (born in Paisley, Scotland 5/28/1879, died 1972).

My great grandmother Bridget Lavelle's parents were Bridget Malley and Thomas Lavelle, married in Keel (unfortunately I have no dates).

My great grandfather Anthony O'Malley's parents were John Malley and Mary McNamara (again, I have no more dates).

I would greatly appreciate ANY help with my search. Thank you, kindly.

Hi Heather,

Achill has loads of O’Malleys, Grace O’Malley or Granuaille being your famous historical relative. I found my great great grandparents grave by going to Slievemore graveyard when I visited. Perhaps worth checking historicals at the free website https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp and search your relatives who would have registered events at Westport. Ed

Tina, i have Lavelle’s in my tree. I wonder if the Peter Lavelle you have in your document might be a sibling of Ellen Lavelle Ruddy. You said you did Ancestry DNA and 23 and me. I wonder if we are related. 

Hi, there,

Do you also have a Peter in your tree?  I did not do Ancestry DNA but I did do 23andme.  I have a GEDmatch number of M685510, if you also put your information on GEDmatch.  My email is irisheyes95@yahoo.com if you don't feel comfortable sharing publicly.  I hope we make a connection!

I have done 23 and me and I have GED but I’ll have to get my number Monday when I get to work as it’s in my desk. I wonder if we are a match on 23 and me. My name is Debi Ruddy Ropp. My email is debi1616@live.com

Debi

Actually just found my GED number. It’s A880202.