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My husband's grandparents came from Shrule in the early 1880's and settled in NYC.  His grandfather Patrick Dooley born 1862 was the son of John Dooley and Mary Carroll.  His grandmother Sarah Martin Dooley was the daughter of Michael Martin and Bridget Moran.  On the wonderful website shrule.com, I found several parish records that verify some of the family oral history.  I also found that Patrick had a brother John (Jack) who also migrated to NYC.  I am looking for any other siblings of Patrick and Jack Dooley, and information on their father John and mother Mary.  Thank you!!

debdools

Sunday 1st Jul 2012, 09:02PM

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  • Hi there,

    You can start looking for some information about Jack Dooley, Mary, John and other siblings by checking a number of different avenues.

    I have taken a look at the Shrule website and it contains some wonderful information about genealogical records. If you haven't already done so, please take a look at the following suggestions:

    There are Roman Catholic church records for the diocese of Shrule (Galway). These date from 1831 for both baptismal and marriage records. You can find these at the National Library of Ireland, Pos. 2438. If you have any difficulty, you could try writing to the parish priest for more assistance.

    Civil registration records are available from the General Register Office (GRO). These start from 1864 however. You can access the website here: http://www.groireland.ie/research.htm

    You could also try checking the land records called the Tithe Applotment Books (1823-38) or the later Griffith's Valuation (1848-64). Griffith's is freely available here: www.askaboutireland.com or here: www.failteromhat.com Failte Romhat has lots of other useful links you could try looking at. Tithe Applotment Books (1823-38). Microfilm copies of the books for all of Ireland are available at the National Archives of Ireland (NAI) http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy1/genealogy-records/tithe-applotment-books-and-the-primary-griffith-valuation/ or the Church of Latter Day Saints (LDS).

    The Tithe Applotment List might be of use to you, or at least interesting for you. These lists constitute the only nationwide survey for the period, and are valuable because the heaviest burden of the tithes to the Established Church, the Church of Ireland, fell on the poorest, for whom few other records survive. The information in the Tithes is quite basic, typically consisting of townland name, landholder's name, area of land and tithes payable. Many Books also record the landlord's name and an assessment of the economic productivity of the land. the tax payable was based on the average price of wheat and oats over the seven years up to 1823, and was levied at a different rate depending on the quality of land. For Parishes where the registers do not begin until after 1850, this information can be useful, as they are often the only surviving early records. They can provide valuable circumstantial evidence, especially where a holding passed from father to son in the period between the Tithe survey and Griffith's Valuation.

    Do you know much about their emigration? Dates, the reason why they left, etc? Generally more information was given at the port of arrival rather than the port of departure. If you knew which city they arrived at (e.g. Liverpool), this could be a good place to find more information.

    You can check for information about the frequency of the name in the mid-19th century and any other variant spellings of the name here: http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/surname/

    There is a book by Brian Smith you might find interesting called 'Tracing your Mayo ancestors', 1997.

    Please make sure you link anyone else in your family who is interested in their Irish heritage to our site - and indeed anyone else you know of Irish heritage.

    Kind regards,

    Sinead Cooney

    Genealogist (Ireland XO)

    Friday 13th Jul 2012, 10:15AM

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