Looking For Patrick Fagan

Hi

can you give year of birth etc here.

Thanks

Pat

Hi Matthew,

I tried the same process with the new family.

The 1870 & 1880 censuses have the family - Patrick born 1835 + - 1 and Eliza born in Ireland also.

Frustratingly, on rootsireland.ie there are 22 Patrick Fagans born 1835 + - 1 in all counties including 6 in Meath.

Assuming Patrick & Eliza married in Ireland, there are 2 marrriages on rootsireland.ie 1860 in Westmeath and 1861 in Dublin. However as Eliza was born in 1843 - 1 (from the census) she would have been only 17 or 18.

The marriages on ancestry has a record of Patrick Fagan & Eliza Dwyer 5 May 1867 in Massachusetts. On this her age is accurate with his a little out.

However, the year fits well with the first child, Alice born 1869. Others were Edward 1872 Mary 1876 & Frederick 1878

Parents on the marraige record: (his) Edward & Mary hers Timothy & Alice

Of course there are no birth records on rootsireland for Patrick & Eliza with these parents!!

You can google Tithe Applotments (1823-27) and search for free - there are 455 Fagans from Westmeath Meath Cavan Longford mainly.

Hope this helps a bit - maybe Pat who replied above can track him can track him with the birth year of 1835/36.

Col

According to a 1870 and 1880 United States Census Taken in Connecticut, USA:

Patrick Fagan - DOB: 1835 Ireland

Eliza Fagan - DOB: 1843 Ireland

Alice or Allace Fagan - DOB: 1869 New York or Connecticut, USA

Mary A. Fagan - DOB: 1872 Connecticut, USA

Edward Fagan - DOB: 1876 Connecticut, USA

Frederick Fagan - DOB: 1878 Connecticut, USA

NOW, According to a Massachusetts, Births and Christings, 1639-1915:

Name: Alice

Gender: Female

Birth Date: 18 Feb 1868

Christening Place: Great Barrington, Berkshire, Massachusetts

Father's Name: Patrick Fagan

Mother's Name: Eliza

ColCaff,

Is it possable they were first married in Ireland and then RE-married in Massachusetts?  It looks like Alice or Allace was Christened in Great Barrington, Berkshire, Massachusetts.  Other wise, the cencuses might be off and Patrick Fagan was born in 1840 and not 1835.

According to a 1870 and 1880 United States Census Taken in Connecticut, USA:

Patrick Fagan - DOB: 1835 Ireland

Eliza Fagan - DOB: 1843 Ireland

Alice or Allace Fagan - DOB: 1869 New York or Connecticut, USA

Mary A. Fagan - DOB: 1872 Connecticut, USA

Edward Fagan - DOB: 1876 Connecticut, USA

Frederick Fagan - DOB: 1878 Connecticut, USA

NOW, According to a Massachusetts, Births and Christings, 1639-1915:

Name: Alice

Gender: Female

Birth Date: 18 Feb 1868

Christening Place: Great Barrington, Berkshire, Massachusetts

Father's Name: Patrick Fagan

Mother's Name: Eliza

Is it possable that Elia could be Elizabeth?