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I am researching my direct ancestors who arrived in NSW Australia in January 1856 via Liverpool in England. Thomas Armstrong declared on arrival that he was from Currin, County Monaghan in Ireland. My father, Thomas's great grandson, told me that he came from a place called Drum. Thomas arrived with his second wife Isabella Corbet and all but two of his daughters who stayed behind but came to join him several years later I am descended from his eldest son George who was 9 years of age when he arrived in NSW. Another family researcher here has obtained a copy of Thomas and Isabella's marriage certificate which took place in the Drum Church of Ireland. Their children hovever were christened in Coothill Allsaints C of I  in Co. Cavan or perhaps the chappel of ease at Ashfield. I have visited the area on two previous occassions and been given wonderful assistance in Ashfield, Coothill and Drum, all of which I discovered, are very close to eachother.

I have much more information which would probably be best attached to a email.

I am wondering how I could request and pay for some other church record details which may help with my further research. Where are the Drum C of I records kept and what period do they cover?

I will post on the Cavan site but I am not sure of name of the parish which includes Ashfield and the Townland of Lisnageer (also of interest) I think it may be Kildrumsherdan.

Many thanks

Robert Armstrong

 

Tuesday 5th Feb 2013, 01:47PM

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    Hi Robert,

     

    Thank you for your message.

     

    You have obviously done a lot of work on your family history, thank you so much for sharing your information here.

     

    Church of Ireland parish registers for the period up to 1870 are public records. Registers are available for about one third of the parishes, however many were destroyed in the Public Records Office in Dublin in 1922. Most surviving records are still held by the local clergy, although some are in the National Archives of Ireland and others are in the Representative Church Body Library in Dublin. Lists of these surviving registers can also be found at the National Library of Ireland.

    The National Archives of Ireland has other useful documents for those searching Church of Ireland records. Among them include A Table of Church of Ireland Parochial Records and Copies by Noel Reid (Naas, 1994) with an Addendum of 2001. This contains a list of all Church of Ireland parish registers which show whether they survive and where they might be held. The names and addresses of the clergy are in the annual Church of Ireland Directory.

     

    For more information go to http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy1/genealogy-records/introduction/

     and

    http://www.ireland.anglican.org/index.php?do=information&id=63    

     

    In order to find the records in Drum, it may be an idea to write to the parish priest for possible assistance.

     

    Alternatively, you could contact Monaghan Genealogy- a fee may apply. Here are their contact details:

    Monaghan Genealogy,

    6 Tully,

    Monaghan.

    Email: theomcmahon@eircom.net

     

    I think Kildrumsherdan may be the correct parish. A good website for information on Irish place names is http://www.logainm.ie/

     

    I hope this is helpful and that you are able to find the records you are looking for.

     

    Please be patient - as our programme has only begun to rollout across the island of Ireland and volunteers in some areas may not yet be organized.

    Kind regards,       

    Genealogy Support

     

    Wednesday 10th Apr 2013, 03:46PM
  • I happened to have this saved and thought you might like to see it: When Armstrongs of Lisnageer sold the pub. 

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    Saturday 14th Sep 2013, 06:41PM
  • Can't help with your Thomas, but as I do have a link to the Armstrong surname in Currin Parish, thought I would add some details here, in case any future research points to a potential link and/or other Armstrong researchers recognise the family group.

     

    My Armstrong is an Eliza Jane Armstrong, Scottish death records place her birth as c 1843, and name her parents as a John Armstrong and Hannah Matthews.

     

    The townland listed on transcript of her 1860 marriage is Carne, Parish of Currin. Although I have found one mention of a Carne schoolhouse in Currin Parish, I have found no Carne townland, so suspect the townland was actually Carnroe and perhaps known locally as Carn/e. Marriage transcript suggests witnesses were a Bessie Moyna and Susan Armstrong.

    scotmum

    Tuesday 1st Oct 2013, 12:38PM
  • It seems that the Drum records may be online

    http://monaghan.rootsireland.ie/generic.php?filename=sources.tpl

    Tuesday 1st Oct 2013, 03:28PM
  • Hello whitelake

     

    Thank you for both of your comments.

    I am interested in the "Armstrong's" pub at Lisnageer, Kildrumsherdan Cavan.

    My father claimed that his grandfather ran a pub at Liverpool NSW but I can find no NSW records of this.

    However when his grandfather George and all of his siblings were baptised in Co Cavan their father, Thomas, stated that he (Thomas) was a "publican", and when he married his second wife, Isabella Corbet of "Carnhollow" (Currin Monaghan?) he stated that he was an "inkeeper". The pub at Lisnageer may well have been run by Thomas. I am working on it. I will certainly look at the Anglo Celt article. His immigration record has his occupation as "farm labourer" such a change was common practice to meet a New South Wales immigration requirement. He actually started a saw milling business.

    Once again many thanks.

    Wednesday 2nd Oct 2013, 03:43PM
  • Hello scotmum

    Thanks for your message.

    There may be a connection. Eliza Jane was about three years older than my George who was born 30/4/1846. Thomas' parents were John and Ann. It seems that your John and Hannah were in the same age range as my Thomas. Do you known the names of the parents of your John Armstrong? I am investigating the possibility that my John Armstrong was one who married a Ann Lord from Napagh (Co. Longford?)  at Clones Co. Monaghan  on 15/4/1810. This is the only marriage that I have been able to find between a John and Ann in the right period> .

    Also my Thomas' second marriage was to Isabella Corbet from "Carnhollow" at Drum C of I.

     

    Thanks again

     

    Wednesday 2nd Oct 2013, 04:04PM
  • Hello Robert 46  My Shea/Dancy research has led me to Amelia ARMSTRONG of the Parish of Currin, Townland: Corrackan in the County of Monaghan. She and her husband James DANCY had at least two children, Matthew and Anne. Anne was baptized on 13th. June 1813. I am interested in seeing if Anne married a James SHEA  of nearby Cavan. This James is the brother of my great grandfather, Thomas and both of them came to Canada around 1837. Thank you for your postings. You have stirred up considerable interest in your family.    Clark Shea (Surrey, British Columbia, Canada)

     

    Clark

    Sunday 26th Mar 2017, 06:51PM

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