tracing great great grandfather Edward Keelan

Pat:

I checked the 1861 Griffiths Valuation head of household listing for Magheross civil parish and there were two Edward Keelans listed. One in Ardragh townland and the other in Lurgans townland. Possibly one of the two is your Edward. I also searched www.familysearch.org for death index records and found an Edward Keelan who died in 1895 in the Carrickmacross registration district which includes Magheross parish. This could be your GGGF. You can write to the GRO www.groireland.ie to get a copy of this record. Fill out their form and provide the quarter/year of death, registration district and the volume and page number ( 2 and 291). Costs around 4 euros.

Roger McDonnell

http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/monaghan/magheross.htm

hi,

This looks like the marriage record for Patrick KEELAN in Mullingar, a certificate should show his Fathers name and where he was living at the time.

Name:Patrick Keelan
Event Type:Marriage
Event Date:Jul - Sep 1878
Event Place:Mullingar, Ireland
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FYQT-731

This looks like a record of Patrick's death in 1924.

Name:Patrick Keelan
Event Type:Death
Event Date:Jan - Mar 1924
Event Place:Mullingar, Ireland
Age:72
Birth Year (Estimated):1852

There is a Bernard KEELAN b.1852 in Carrickmacross, it looks like he was farming at Lurgans (Carrickmacross (Rural), Monaghan) in the 1901 Census.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Monaghan/Carrickmacros…

If your Edward farmed at Lurgans in 1861, Bernard is likely his son who inherited the family farm.

http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNam…

There is another Bernard who runs a Grocery store in Carrickmacross in 1901.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Monaghan/Carrickmacros…

Regards,

SEAN

Many thanks Roger

These are the only two Edward Keelan in Griffiths Valuation and both are in Magheross

I had this information on both Edward in Ardragh and Edward in Lurgans. The Edward in Ardragh as far as I can ascertain is the Edward who died in 1895 and I tracked some of his relatives and he is not my gg gf. 

The Edward in Lurgans m Rose Maginn and according to Baptismal records had a daughter Margaret b 1860. I am trying to get more information on this Edward but Griffiths (co Monaghan 1855) and Baptismal record are only pieces of information I have on him.

records pre 1852 were destroyed

there were two other Keelan families in Lurgans c1865 to 1877 from Baptismal records -Bernard m Magaret Keskin and had children Thomes, Brigid, Edward. Also Thomas m Catherine McCabe and had a son Edward. On children's names usage these could be related to the Edward Keelan I am trying to locate.

only Bernard's family appear in 1901/1911 Census

I have anecdotal evidence from non related ( as far I can ascertain) Keelans in Australia and USA of children being left behind with relatives as they emigrated after the famine 

many thanks again 

kind regards

Pat

hi,

re: Edward in Ardragh as far as I can ascertain is the Edward who died in 1895

Edward from Ardagh left a Will which mentions his wife Mary as beneficiary.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-23395-28559-50?cc=1921305…

Unfortunately there is no image of the Will at PRONI so there is nothing to read.

Mary also left a Will, again no image at PRONI.

http://applications.proni.gov.uk/DCAL_PRONI_WillsCalendar/WillsSearchRe…

SEAN

Hi Sean

many thanks for fefeedback that Patrick 1851-1924 was my g gf and have a good record on him from 1872 onwards when there is the first record of him in Mullingar as a Patrick E Keelan.

have no information on him from his birth in Co Monaghan 1851/2 until 1872

I got his fathers name from Patrick's marriage certificate of 1878

the Edward Keelan in Lurgans in 1855 Griffiths Valuation m Rose Maginn as far as I can ascertain they had a daughter  Margaret in 1860 from the Baptismal records in Carrickmacross.

so my focus is on this Edward Keelan, Rose Keelan and Margaret Keelan at the momoment 

there were 18 Keelan households in Magheross in the mid 1800s and Christian names Edward, Patrick and Bernard were quite common

again many thanks for help

kind regards

Pat

hi,

re have no information on him from his birth in Co Monaghan 1851/2 until 1872

If he was a Catholic, there are no official Birth records before 1864 for him.

fyi

There were only 2 Edward KEELANs in Griffiths and you have the name of the Townlands.

You say the Edward at Ardragh is not your relation, so that leaves Lurgans.

You need to go to your LDS Centre and check out the revaluation records from Griffiths through to 1930s.

This will give you the name of the person who inherited the farm from Edward.

It will also give you the year the change happened, which was usually the year of his death.

If Edwards wife was still alive the land would pass to her.

If she died before Edward, it would usually have gone to his eldest son.

Good Luck.

SEAN

Sean many thanks will peruse this approach you have recommended. Yes they were all RC

kind regards

Pat

hi Pat,

You could also try and find out if the family are still in Lurgans, Monaghan, and are aware of the connection to Edward.

Go to the following Website, click on the "Registration Form" link and fill in the form with as many details as possible.

www.countymonaghanfund.com

They are local people who are trying to reconnect people to their Monaghan roots.

I was in Monaghan recently for an organized family reunion weekend, and this organization arranged for a distant cousin to meet me and take me round to my McGUIRK, McKENNA, CAULFIELD relations none of whom I had previously met.

They have another reunion planned for September sometime I think.

They are hoping to set up a Heritage centre in Monaghan I believe.

Regards,

SEAN

Thanks Sean have registered with Monaghan web site.

kind regards

Pat