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How can I get any information regarding Thomas Traynor (various spellings) and his ancestors?

Thomas born about 1835  in Monaghan and  moved to England  - Co Durham. He married Catharine Hanratty. His granddaughter  Maria Trainor  was my grandmother.

Many thanks

Neville Johnson

 

nevillejohnson

Wednesday 16th Apr 2014, 04:10PM

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  • Neville:

    The 1861 Griffiths Valuation head of household listing for Magheross civil parish lists 3 Trainor and 1 Traynor entries. Possibly, one or more were related to Thomas.

    I assume your ancestors were RC. Unfortunately, RC baptismal records start around 1858 for Magheross RC parish.

    Roger McDonnell

    http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/monaghan/magheross.htm

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Wednesday 16th Apr 2014, 09:28PM
  • Hi Neville

    Further to Roger's help, www.rootsireland.ie/ which charges to view records has 3 baptism records for Thomas Traynor in Monaghan 1837 and 2 (Trenor) in 1839.

    It is possible to get the parish by clicking the magnifying glass at the end of the recordand. I found 2 of the Traynor records were from Tydavnet RC parish. The other is from Errigal Truagh RC parish.

    http://monaghan.rootsireland.ie/quis.php?page=0&prevStartQuery=0

    I'm not sure how you can work out which of the three is your Thomas.

    You need to purchase the records to get the parents' names. Do you have the name of any of his siblings that would help to narrow down the parents' names? 

    You might find the Tithe Applotments (1823-37 & free online) interesting; there are 47 Traynors in Monaghan including a Thos & a Thomas so if the name was passed down they could be close relatives.

    Col

     

     

     

     

    ColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Wednesday 16th Apr 2014, 10:12PM
  • hi,

    It looks like Thomas and Catherine had a number of children in Durham, below is the earliest birth record I could find.

    Maybe Thomas and Catherine were married at the same church ??

    If so there should be a marriage record which would hopefully show the name of their fathers...

    Name:     Brigitta Traynor
    Gender:     Female
    Christening Date:     26 Feb 1860
    Christening Place:     Our Blessed Lady and St. Joseph, Broom, Durham, England
    Father's Name:     Thomae Traynor
    Mother's Name:     Catharinae Hanratty Traynor

    Was your grandmothers father also Thomas ??

    I only find 1 son born to the couple...
    Name:     Thomas Trainor
    Gender:     Male
    Christening Date:     10 Sep 1871
    Christening Place:     St. Joseph's, Gateshead, Durham, England
    Birth Date:     26 Aug 1871
    Father's Name:     Thoma Trainor
    Mother's Name:     Catharina Hanratty

    Regards,

    SEAN

    sean99

    Wednesday 7th May 2014, 06:21AM
  • Many thanks for all of your help.

    I have the marriage certificate for Thomas Trainor and Catharine Hanratty, and details of their children and subsequent generations.

    It lists Thomas's father as James - a farmer(presumably in Carrickmacross, where Thomas was born.

    Catharine's Farher is listed as Patrick Hanratty - a farmer 

    Neville

    nevillejohnson

    Saturday 2nd Aug 2014, 11:31AM
  • I have some information re my Hanratty relatives.

    Catharine  (or Kate)  b1836  Carrickmacross   moved to Co Durham England      m Thomas Trainor in 1856 in Lanchester Co Durham.

    She had  a brother Patrick b1843 Carrickmacross     He lived in Gateshead  around 1871 where his daughter died. He moved back to Ireland with his wife Ellen who, I think, died in Carrickmacross in 1873.

    Catharine and Patrick's father  was a farmer in Carrickmacross.

    can anyone help with more information?

    Thanks again for all previous help

    Neville

    nevillejohnson

    Tuesday 2nd Sep 2014, 05:35PM
  • Neville:

    You were correct about the year of death for Ellen. Did Patrick die young also? Found a Patrick Hanratty born 1843 who died in 1877.

    You mentioned that Patrick Hanratty was the father of Catherine and Patrick. The Griffiths shows a Patrick Hanratty in Corduff (Kelly) townland. Is that him?

    Roger McDonnell

     
    First name(s) Ellen
    Last name Hanratty
    Age 29
    Birth year 1844
    Registered year 1873
    Death year 1873
    Registered quarter/year 1873
    Registration district Carrickmacross
    Volume 12
    Page 281
    County

     

    First name(s) Patrick
    Last name Hanratty
    Age 34
    Birth year 1843
    Registered year 1877
    Death year 1877
    Registered quarter/year 1877
    Registration district Carrickmacross
    Volume 12
    Page 279

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Tuesday 2nd Sep 2014, 06:36PM
  • Good Morning ,

    Just to let you know there is a Treanor/ Traynor/ Trainor Facebook Group which tells the history of 

    the surname. Members share stories and link up with others who share same ancestors. My email address is meptreanor@gmail.com please also find link to Facebook group. 
    regards

    Noel

    https://m.facebook.com/groups/443451089172141/?ref=group_header&view=group

    Strongman1

    Tuesday 11th Feb 2020, 10:42AM

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