How far is it from Dublin to Teevnacreeva - Family name Drury

Drury:

Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!

I would use Google Maps to find the directions but from what I see, it appears to be a two 1/2 hour drive. They will need to take the M50 then M4/N4 and then the N5 when you enter Co. Roscommon. You go thru Strokestown and then Frenchpark. I would stop in Frencpark and ask for directions and I'm sure the roads narrow to one lane to get to Teevnacreeva.

Here is the 1901 census record which includes your grandmother

http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Roscommon/Buckhill/Teevnac…

I did a quick search of Roots Ireland and found three records that may be germane. The first is a transcription of your grandmother's civil birth record. The second and third records are transcriptions for baptismal records for likely older siblings. The mother is shown as Catherine Brennan but the other two records have a different mother.

Let me know what questions you have.

Roger McDonnell

Name:Margaret DruryDate of Birth:26-Feb-1892
Registration Date:10-Mar-1892Address:TeevnacreevaParish/District:FRENCHPARKGender:FemaleCountyCo. Roscommon
Denomination:Civil Parish
Father:Peter DruryMother:Catherine BrennanOccupation:Farmer
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Informant 1:Peter Drury Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Not Recorded Not Recorded 

Name:James DruryDate of Birth:15-Aug-1886
Date of Baptism:29-Aug-1886Address:TheevnacreevnaParish/District:TIBOHINE-FAIRYMOUNTGender:MaleCountyCo. Roscommon
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Peter DruryMother:Brigid FreyneOccupation:
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Informant 1:Patrick Mahon Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Catherine Drury 

Name:Peter DruryDate of Birth:22-Sep-1881
Date of Baptism:25-Sep-1881Address:TeevnacreevaParish/District:TIBOHINE-FAIRYMOUNTGender:MaleCountyCo. Roscommon
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Peter DruryMother:Bridgid FreyneOccupation:
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Informant 1:Michael Drury Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Anne Drury 

Drury:

Here is the civil death record for Catherine Drury in 1892. She died six months after giving birth to Margaret 

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_retu…

Cause of death was phthisis  https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/phthisis

Roger

Roger,

I am stunned and so very grateful to you for opening up some of our family history so quickly and bringing these people back to life for us!

Thank you, thank you!!

So it would appear that Peter Drury had two older children by a different wife. Wow.

And that my great grandmother did not die in childbirth, but from tuberculosis. Wow wow. And that her maiden name was Brennan?? Could that be a mis-recording on the parish's part? I hope so because we have a lot of family with the name Barrett, including a brand new baby who is called Barrett William Wellford. Might have to change it to Brennan! How could that get so mixed up? Glad they got the Drury right. I'm Ann Drury Wellford, named, obviously, for my grandmother.

Towards the end of her life my grandmother would talk about how she so desperately wished she'd known what her mother looked like. It was really sad. It's hard to know what she was told as a child about her mother's fate, or what got lost in translation through the years.

Do you mind if I contact you in the future about other leads on where to search for my ancestors and kinsmen? You have so kindly provided us with a pivot point in our family history. I simply can't tell you. Our father was from Virginia, where we all grew up. We know everything about our family roots in Virginia, which very much overshadowed my mother's ability to talk more openly about her uncertain knowledge about her own family's roots. Virginians are horrific snobs and can be quite boring about the subject.

I will pass all of this on to my brother, Jamie, (yep, James Barrett Wellford...may have to change it to James Brennan Wellford) and his son, Landon, who will be the Trinity scholar.

Thank you very much again, Roger.

Cheers,

Drury

Ann:

OK. Looks like Roots Ireland made a transcription error. Here is the civil marriage record from May 7, 1891 and it shows Catherine Barrett. I'm sure you feel better.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_re…

Also looks like there may have been two Peter Drurys in Teevnacreeva. I found an 1865 marriage for a Peter Drury from Teevnacreeva and Bridget Frayne in Ballaghaderreen. The father's name for Peter is shown as Michael which is different than the 1891 marriage record which shows Bartholomew. Also the 1891 record shows him as a Bachelor not a Widower. Bottom line: Disregard the two baptismal records I provided earlier.

Date of Marriage:09-Feb-1865
Parish / District:BALLAGHADREEN
County:Co. Roscommon
Husband  PeterDrury  Address:Tonacreva
Wife Bridget Frayne Banada More

Husband's Father  MichaelDrury
Wife's Father ThomasFrayne

You can certainly ask more questions on this thread about the Drurys or others. 

Roger
 

Hi Roger,

Gasp, gasp, gasp!! This is so wonderful!! And now I know my Drury gggrandfather was named Bartholomew. And my ggrandmother was a minor and a spinster! This is so remarkable!! Thank you!

Please call me Drury. I have been called Drury my entire life. It is very common where I grew up to be called by a middle name, even though the name has a masculine ring to it.

Drury, or Drewry, is an old colonial name in Virginia, found very heavily in the southeast part of the state, particularly around Halifax County. Many men of the era were called Drury, for example Drury Bolling, who lived in Charles City County, late 17th c., which is recent for you but ancient for us. Drewry's Bluff, along the James River near Richmond, was the site of a famous Civil War Naval engagement, and I have often been asked if I am related to that family. I always say not on this side, but perhaps on the other. I would love to learn more about how many of these colonial Drurys came from Roscommon.

I have to confess to you that the information you have provided me has made me cry, tears of joy and of sadness, for knowing things my mother, Joan, never knew. It would have meant so much to her. Her mother, Margaret Drury, had a very difficult life. She contracted blood poisoning when she was about 26, mother of three already by that point, and was an invalid and house bound for the rest of her life. She had my mother, Joan, 7 years later, but was unable to take her around to do things the way other mothers did. I think how hard it must have been for grandma to be so alone in the world, away from home and trapped in a broken body at such an early age. Apparently she was a great beauty. I know my mother was, every bit the beauty that Ireland is so capable of producing. They both had tremendous intellect and humor, loved to debate, and grandma was an incredible cook and seamstress. It just makes me cry to know where it all comes from.

Do you all watch the Henry Louis Gates program "Finding Your Roots" over there? It's focused on US celebrities, and they really hit the jackpot if they are descended from slaves. Gates gives the Irish very short shrift, which makes me so angry...just about broke Harry Connick Jr. and Sting's hearts. :( I am more proud of my Irish ancestry than any other, and always have been. Even so, watching the people on the program learn about their ancestry makes me cry with them. As I said, I know all about the Virginia roots...can't get away from it...but my mother's roots are what matter most to me.

Thank you for setting me on this path to new discoveries.

Cheers,

Drury

Drury:

Very glad that we could help you with your family. So sad about your grandmother's health issues. Actually, I live in Maryland and I'm familiar with the programs that have tracked the roots of various celebrities.

Drury was a very common surname in northwest/west Co. Roscommon. In fact, in the 1901 census there were 52 households with the surname Drury in Co. Roscommon.

Roger

Wonderful!

Just to let you know, as you go further in your search (to help you tell Barretts of the same name apart)...

the Barrett name in North Co. Roscommon centred around two main clusters:

Croghan (Killummod & Killukin) ... which you can ignore; and

Loughlynn (Tibohine & Fairymount) ... which includes Teveenacreeva. Here you have a number of key Barrett townlands:

>  TIBOHINE (far north east of Loughlynn)  Teevnacreeva

>  FAIRYMOUNT (east Loughlynn) Grallagh, Leitrim & Eden

>  LOUGHLYNN West> Cuiltyboe, Driney, Kilrooan, Corracoggil & Creevy

These were all conjested townlands in the early 19th Century ... and full of cottiers (aka cottagers). And so, your Barrett ancestors  are likely to be of a cottier class.  In the 1824 Tithe Applotment Records (Tibohine), you won't find a Barrett listed anywhere in the Loughlynn / Tibohine area… however, they were there. It's just that their holdings were too small to fall liable to tax. Or one family member (of a different surname) was named for the rundale arrangement the extended family had there.

You will find a Peter, Michael and James Drury listed in Teevnacreeva in 1825 here, this should take you back a generation eariler than the Griffith's Valuation of 1857. That is not to say there was not a Barrett family on that land too. You will need to comb through the Catholic Parish Records to confirm that.

I have gathered some records on the Barretts of Loughlynn & Tibohine, so if you need a cross-check on any couple you may be looking at, let me know.

Best of luck with your search!

Rua

Roger - Thank you so much for that reply and info about the Drurys. Maryland is certainly somewhat closer!

Rua - Thank you so much for the info and links on the Barretts. I will be starting a tree on Family Tree Maker this week. It is so wonderful to know so much about my Irish ancestors is now accessible online!! I will be interested to see what other names pop up.

It's really quite marvelous that the Ireland Reaching Out site has been created to track the Irish diaspora.

One question: do either you or Roger know how Tibohine is pronounced? I see in the1825 records show a spelling of "Tybohen," which makes me think it is something like TYE-bo-en. Any ideas?

Drury:

I'm not local but I pronounce it Tih bah heen Maybe Rua can clarify.

Roger

A fantastic resource for figuring out the pronunciation (and meaning) of an Irish placename is: logainm.ie.

Click here for Tibohine. All you have to do is click on the PLAY button to hear a recording of the pronunciation. [Tih-bow-HEEN]

It's also really helpful to click on the "Archival Records" link. That will take you through to a list of all the variations of how a place was spelled back in the 19th century (before placename spellings were standardised). This is good to know when you are searching newspaper archives and older records as the modern spelling may yield no results on a search, so you need to try all variations. In some cases, a placename may have had an alternative name, so it is vital to check this also.

In the case of Tibohine, it was also known as "Artagh".

You should also note it was spelled: Taughboyne; Tybohan; Tibohen; Tivohine; Teboyhin and Tig Baoithin. (Soundex won't cover all of these!)

It also helps to look at the Irish (Gaelic) version of the placename, as that is what the English record-makers were actually referencing (and making a mess of in their attempts to Anglicize it).  Tibohine is an Anglicization of Tigh Bhaoithín [Tig BwaHEEN] = The House of Saint Boyne.

I'd highly recommend you check out findmypast (where you can also build a tree).

You will find a wealth of helpful information in there, especially in the Petty Court records. 19th century Roscommon farmers would take each other to court for trepass of a neighbours cow on their land. 'Drunk and disorderly on a public road' was another common one. In any case, sometimes the sons (labourers) and father (yeoman) were listed, and this can give you a greater range to who the clansmen were.

Rua - This is such wonderful, wonderful information. Thank you!! I think I will have to print these posts out and start a notebook, particularly with your references to the variations on the spellings of Tibohine, not to mention the fumbled Anglicization of Tigh Bhaoithin. It's beautiful to look at. And also, the clarification for the terminology of Yeoman and Laborer is really quite useful and marvelously distinctive! I'm glad they had nothing better to do than take each other to court back when, although I'm not surprised.  At least they didnt set everything on fire like they do in our remote Eastern Shore of Virginia here. Boredom can create some crazy behavior. Thank you again!!

LOL ... fire might have been a thing here too if it weren't for all the rain!

Drury:

How did your brother and nephew make out?

Roger

Thank you for asking, Roger.

I haven't had a chance to talk to my brother but I'm assuming he and his son did not make the trip. They probably didn't have time.

Doesn't mean it won't be done sometime, however.

Cheers.

My husband and I are leaving the states on 10/30 arriving 10/31 and plan on driving through this area, hoping to find Driney specifically, for some research time.  Your notes here are indispensible!  Thanks you for all that you do!

Nikki Wenzel

@Nicole

Go n-éirí an bóthar leat!

(May the road rise to meet you in Driney!)