Looking for help

Hello Julie,

Have you tried searching the www.rootsireland.ie site?  I did a quick search there but didn't find your Jane Crotty.  I found a Jane Crotty with father Michael Crotty who was born in Clonmel in 1886.  The dates are miles out so this can't be her.

Try the following sites www.rootsireland.ie (free to join and search but pay to open records) www.irishgenealogy.ie ( free government run site covering about 5 counties which are not covered by rootsireland)    www.askaboutireland.ie (free searchable site regarding land owner ship)

What makes you think she was from Clonmel?  The church records are fairly good for that time period so I'm puzzeled tht we can't find her.  Having said that no online records are foolproof.  Many mistakes are made in transcription.  Just because it's not on the website doesn't mean it's not in the church registry.

Anne Dennehy

Hi Anne. On the passenger lists she is shown once as being from tipperary and once as Clonmel tipperary. On the birth cert for one of her children she was she is from clonmel. She was probably born around 1833

Hi Julie,

Success!!!  I found the birth record for Jane Crotty on www.rootsireland.ie.   If you go to that site just put in her name and date 1833.

The record is found Jane Crotty b. 1832 Co. Waterford

I went to the Co. Waterford site and trawled through the parishes.  She was born in the parish of St. Mary's RC, Clonmel.

As you may know Clonmel is in Co. Tipperary but it straddles the river Suir and so part of the town is actually inb Co. Waterford, so this is why the record is located in Co. Waterford.

It is free to join this site but it may cost you about €5 to view her record.

Regards,

Anne Dennehy

Julie,

If Jane was a famine orphan, then there would be a record of her in what is known as the Work/poor house which was run by the Board of Guardians.

These people kept meticulous records, down to how much thread was bought to repair linens etc.,

The records for the Clonmel workhouse are kept in Thurles (further north in Tipperary) Library for reference.  It would be worth contacting them to ask if Jane appears in the records.  As you have the year 1850 then it might not be too large a task (they wouldn't have to trawl through years of data).  I wonder if she had any brothers or sisters with her.  

I have read some of these entries and your heart would break when you read of all that died belonging to them.  the famine was such a trajedy and the repercussions were felt for years afterwards.

Let me know how you get on with this record, and if there's anything more I can do, please just let me know.

Anne

Dear Anne.  Thank you so much!  Not knowing hte geography I would never have thought to look in Waterford... very exciting as that was a brick wall for us!  I will definitely contact the library re the famine records... at the famine memorial I attended a coiple of weeks ago, they mentioned that sometimes if the Mum was still alive, she may also be in the workhouse, but of course, could not apply under he Earl Grey scheme to immigrate... it s very sad, I agree,  The memorial here at Hyde Park Barracks is very moving, and Jane's name is inscribed on it.  We have a gap this end from when she arrived until when she met and married Martin gready, but we are determoinded to fill it in, and the write her story...

Kind rEgards

Julie

Hi Anne

I found the record... I had already joined roots Ireland a while back, but it can cost a small fortune if you are unsure if you have the correct record... so that was really a big help.  I would ahve ignored Waterford!  So do you think the fact the record is Janet and not Jane is still her?  Was Jane a shortened version of Janet in those times?

On my mothers side, we are grady/crotty and grady/whelan.  Lots of Irish roots

Julie

Julie,

Yes I believe this is the record of your ancestor.  The name isn't a terribly common name for that time.  There were transcription errors as the records were transcribed over seas.  As you probably know all the names were in Latin so there are a couple of possibilities for that name.  Like the name Mariam in latin. This child could have been called Mary, Maria, Marie, Marion.

This is your Jane.

Anne