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Hello in Arboe/Country Tyrone,

 

I am near Sydney Australia, and have found my GGG Grandfather James English (born 1792 in Arboe) and his wife, Eliza nee Hammond (died 1878 in Tipperary).

James was in the Army but I cannot find any information on this.

Also, importantly, James father was George and his mother Sarah.  I cannot find any marriage record to ascertain her surname prior to her marriage.  If someone can assist with this, please.

I think their first child was Richard in 1786 then Mary Ann 1788, Thomas 1790, James 1792.  Any information would be very welcome.

Kind regards,

Blue

Monday 15th Jul 2013, 10:29AM

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  • Hi Blue thank you very much for your message.

    Unfortunately, it may be difficult to find George and Sarah?s marriage record for 2 reasons:

    (1) As civil registration did not begin until 1864 the marriage would only have been recorded by the local parish church. As a  result you need to  know where the marriage took place in order to know which records are relevant to you.

    (2)  The reality of finding documentation pertaining to births/baptisms/marriages/deaths in Ireland prior to 1800 ? particularly in rural areas ? is that they simply may not exist. For example, Catholic records in Arboe do not start until 1827:

    http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/fuses/rcparishmaps/index.cfm?fuseaction=showidrecords&CityCounty=Tyrone&parish=Arboe&churchid=181

    Church of Ireland records generally tend to have an earlier start date as it was the official church of the country at the time. Most surviving Church of Ireland records are still held by the local clergy, although some are in the National Archives of Ireland and others are in the Representative Church Body Library in Dublin. Here are their websites: http://www.nationalarchives.ie/ and http://ireland.anglican.org/about/42

    Lists of these surviving registers can also be found at the National Library of Ireland.

    It may be an idea to contact the Irish World Heritage Centre in Tyrone to see if they can be of any assistance, however a fee may apply. Here is their email: info@irish-world.com

    In the meantime some websites that you may find useful are:

    The National Archives of Ireland http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy1/genealogy-records/introduction/

    The National Library of Ireland http://www.nli.ie/en/family-history-introduction.aspx

    The National Archives UK ? genealogy search: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/

    The Public Records Office of Northern Ireland http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/family_history.htm

    Family Search: www.familysearch.org

    Ireland Gen Projects: http://www.igp-web.com/

    County Tyrone: http://www.cotyroneireland.com/

    I hope this is helpful. Please be patient - as our programme has only begun to rollout across the island of Ireland and volunteers in some areas may not yet be organized.

    Kind regards,    

    Genealogy Support

     

    Monday 15th Jul 2013, 03:14PM
  • I do not think that my attempt to reply posted and so I will redo it here.

    There was a Richard English - my ancestor - born about 1785/86 who emmigrated

    from Ireland as part of the Peter Robinson settlers in 1825 when he was about

    40 years old.  Look up Peter Robinson settler sites and the ship called the Amity.

    He was killed after living on his farm, located between Peterborough and the village

    of Norwood, by a falling tree.  He was the first person buried in the local cemetary.

    His widow married a widower named Dennis Hurley and they raised their 12 children.

    Two of their children later married - Michael Hurley and Bridget English.

    Hope this helps.

    Mary English

      mecooper3@shaw.ca

    Sunday 23rd Feb 2014, 08:16PM
  • I do not think that my attempt to reply posted and so I will redo it here.

    There was a Richard English - my ancestor - born about 1785/86 who emmigrated

    from Ireland as part of the Peter Robinson settlers in 1825 when he was about

    40 years old.  Look up Peter Robinson settler sites and the ship called the Amity.

    He was killed after living on his farm, located between Peterborough and the village

    of Norwood, by a falling tree.  He was the first person buried in the local cemetary.

    His widow married a widower named Dennis Hurley and they raised their 12 children.

    Two of their children later married - Michael Hurley and Bridget English.

    Hope this helps.

    Mary English

      mecooper3@shaw.ca

    Sunday 23rd Feb 2014, 08:16PM
  • I do not think that my attempt to reply posted and so I will redo it here.

    There was a Richard English - my ancestor - born about 1785/86 who emmigrated

    from Ireland as part of the Peter Robinson settlers in 1825 when he was about

    40 years old.  Look up Peter Robinson settler sites and the ship called the Amity.

    He was killed after living on his farm, located between Peterborough and the village

    of Norwood, by a falling tree.  He was the first person buried in the local cemetary.

    His widow married a widower named Dennis Hurley and they raised their 12 children.

    Two of their children later married - Michael Hurley and Bridget English.

    Hope this helps.

    Mary English

      mecooper3@shaw.ca

    Sunday 23rd Feb 2014, 08:16PM

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