Thomas Martin 1800-1864 Family

Jennie,

The 1830s are before the start of statutory marriage registration and so you will be dependent on church records to find the marriage. Do you know what denomination the family were? In particular, the bride, as it was traditional to marry in her church.

I note you say that Thomas Martin was in Griffiths but dead by November 1864. The Revaluation records (which continue Griffiths forward) show that Thomas Martin remaining as tenant of plot 14 in Corbally until 1876 when he was succeeded by John Hughes.  Griffiths clerks sometimes didn?t pick changes of tenant for a couple of years but in general the evidence suggests that this Thomas Martin was still alive until c 1876.

If it is your family, you may have noticed a John Martin nearby in am agricultural labourers cottage (plot 8b). He could well be a relative. He remained listed until 1901 (though he is not in the 1901 census).

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I looked for a death for Thomas Martin from 1864 to 1878, registered in Omagh (which includes Corbally) but none is listed. He either died before 1864 or elsewhere in Ireland. No record of a probated will for him 1858 ? 1878.

What was Thomas Martin?s occupation? Do you know?

Elwyn

Hi Elwyn,

Thanks for your information. As far as I know Thomas was a farmer, probably a tenant as I can't find any records of him owning land.

I too have the page that shows Thomas being replaced by John Hughes but wasn't sure of the date. I didn;t realise that the  "76" hand written at the side was the date of the charge over. I followed this Thomas Martin as his son James was living at Dundivin Glebe in Donacavey Parish. Andrew Fulton is a tenant farmer there on land owned by Rev Henry Tottenham - Andrew was a witness at James's mariage on 26 Jan 1855. Looks like I will have to try to follow another Thomas. I have good records here from when they arrived in 1864 including name of ship "Champion of the Seas" and dates. I don't know of a John Martin - Thomas had 2 sons James and also William and 2 daughters Jane and Eliza.

Thomas 's wife is buried in the Methodist section of the cenetery here in Australia and her death certificate was she was Wesleyan. His son James was married  in the Church of Ireland at Colaghty.

A possible death for Thomas is registered at Carrickmacross - but the ones I found are supposition as I don;t have any definite informagtion. All I have of Thomas is from his wife Ann's death certificate.

Thanks for your help

Jennie

Hi Elwyn,

Thanks for your information. As far as I know Thomas was a farmer, probably a tenant as I can't find any records of him owning land.

I too have the page that shows Thomas being replaced by John Hughes but wasn't sure of the date. I didn;t realise that the  "76" hand written at the side was the date of the charge over. I followed this Thomas Martin as his son James was living at Dundivin Glebe in Donacavey Parish. Andrew Fulton is a tenant farmer there on land owned by Rev Henry Tottenham - Andrew was a witness at James's mariage on 26 Jan 1855. Looks like I will have to try to follow another Thomas. I have good records here from when they arrived in 1864 including name of ship "Champion of the Seas" and dates. I don't know of a John Martin - Thomas had 2 sons James and also William and 2 daughters Jane and Eliza.

Thomas 's wife is buried in the Methodist section of the cenetery here in Australia and her death certificate was she was Wesleyan. His son James was married  in the Church of Ireland at Colaghty.

A possible death for Thomas is registered at Carrickmacross - but the ones I found are supposition as I don;t have any definite informagtion. All I have of Thomas is from his wife Ann's death certificate.

Thanks for your help

Jennie

The majority of farmers were tenants. (That was one of the causes of discontent in Ireland at the time, the inability to get your own freehold, save with a small percentage of the big landowners who were willing to sell). It is likely therefore that he was a tenant. He probably spent most of his life on the same farm though. Most landlords were happy enough to renew leases when they expired. If he was a farmer, then he should be in Griffiths. (That?s why I enquired about his profession). Occasionally Griffiths clerks were slow in picking up changes, and the dates can be out by a couple of years, but not usually by 12. Griffiths for Corbally was compiled c 1860, so if you are sure he was alive then he ought to be in it.

Re Thomas?s wife being Methodist, unlike the position in England and elsewhere, it took a lot longer for the Methodists to emerge as a separate denomination in Ireland. (Many of them wanted to retain the link with the Church of Ireland). Consequently though they had their own meeting halls in Ireland from the early 1800s, they often continued to baptise and marry in the Church of Ireland right up to the 1880s. (It varied a bit between the different sects, eg Primitives, Wesleyans and so on). So if you don?t find any Methodist records in the area for her baptism and marriage, then the Church of Ireland is the place to look.