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Researching my 3 x great grandfather "Alexander Dunn" (and his family) born 12 April 1837 in Pomeroy, Tyrone.

He immigrated to the US in 1869/70. Cannot find any info/proof on that; other than listed in the 1910 US census.

He married "Ann Clemens" (born 1842) on 2nd April 1863 in Termonmaguirk, Tyrone.
They had three daughters born in Pomeroy.
Margaret Jane- 29 Jan 1864
Martha- 1st Dec1865
(My 2 x Great G-ma)
Sarah- 16 Mar 1868
Any help input would be greatly appreciated! Cheers!

BeverlyB

Monday 21st Mar 2022, 12:21AM

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    Beverly,

    Tradition was to marry in the bride’s church which in this case was Sixmilecross Presbyterian. So that’s likely where Ann was baptised. Unfortunately that church lost all it’s early records in a fire and now has nothing before 1900.

    Ann’s father was Robert Clements. He’s listed in Ramackan in Griffiths Valuation. He had plot 27 which was a 20 acre farm. Nearby on plot 36 was a David Clements who may be a relation. Plot 27 is on the modern Ramackan Rd and is still a farm today (judging by Google Earth).

    https://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=nameSearch

    2 Clements farms in Ramackan in 1901:

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Six_Mile_Cross/Ramackan/1749670/

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Six_Mile_Cross/Ramackan/1749683/

    The above James looks to have been Ann Clements brother (who witnessed her marriage). Here’s his marriage in 1869 to Mary Jane Happer:

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1869/11428/8197962.pdf

    Clements family were still there in 1939:

    Clements David of Ramackin county Tyrone farmer died 19 April 1939 Probate Londonderry 24 July to Lola Helen Clements spinster. Effects £1174 14s. 4d.

    The Valuation revision records (on the PRONI website) show Alexander Dunn acquired plot 2 in Killey in 1864. His name is deleted in 1870 which ties in with the date for his migration. It was a 16 acre farm. It’s still farmland today (off the Lurganeden Rd, to the south of Pomeroy) but the farm buildings are all long demolished.  Presumably the land has been incorporated into an adjacent farm.

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Monday 21st Mar 2022, 09:18AM
  • Elwyn!
    Such a wonderful gift of information you have provided for me!
    I am truly grateful !!! ;-))
    I finally found (only as of today Tuesday) Alexander's (and family) passenger list on Family search. He had sailed on the fairly new steamship "Cambria" (November 5, 1869) that wrecked in October of 1870 that had been sailing back to Glasgow. All except one man perished! That included 103 children! :*(
    My Alexander (and family) had been blessed to make it without incident!!
    Now...if I could only find his birth record. ;-)

    BeverlyB

    Wednesday 23rd Mar 2022, 03:03AM
  • Beverly,

    A birth in 1837 or thereabouts is long before the start of statutory birth registration in Ireland (1864) so you won’t get a birth certificate for Alexander Dunn. You may find his baptism but to do that you need to know his religious denomination. I looked at the 1901 census of Co Tyrone. There were 197 Dunns. The majority were either Church of Ireland or Presbyterian. Neither the Church of Ireland not the Presbyterian church in Pomeroy have any records for the 1830s. The Church of Ireland lost theirs in the 1922 fire and the Presbyterian church’s records only start in 1841. Prior to that they either weren’t keeping records or they too are lost. 

    As far as Alexander’s own date of birth is concerned, most people in Ireland didn’t celebrate birthdays in the 1800s, and rarely knew when they were born. If officialdom later asked for an age or date of birth it was common just to make one up. So the normal advice is search 5 years either side, though unfortunately in this case that probably still won’t help.  If he was Presbyterian, you might find any younger siblings in the Pomeroy records. You really need to get someone to go to PRONI in Belfast to look them up as they are not on-line anywhere. 

    I looked in the tithe applotment records for Pomeroy in 1829. There was only 1 Dunn farming in the parish and he was named Thomas so I’d say that’s a very good chance it’s Alexander’s father:

    http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/tyrone/tithe-applotment-books/parish-of-pomeroy.php

    He was farming in Cappog (more commonly Cappagh). He had gone by the time of Griffiths Valuation in 1860 suggesting he had died. However there was an Anne Dunn farming there on plot 22 (a 20 acre farm). A woman farming was usually a widow, so I’d hazard a guess that might be Alexander’s mother. Do you have her name from Alexander's death certificate perhaps? It’d be a way of confirming.

    Plot 22 today is up a lane on the modern Sessiadonaghy Rd. The original farmhouse has been demolished and new buildings erected but the land is still farmland.

    https://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=name…

    Anne Dunn died in 1877 aged 62.

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1877/020542/7208386.pdf

    After her death, the Valuation Revision records tell us the farm was split. Patrick McKeown took some of the land and a James Dunn senior took the rest. He is deleted in 1896 and there are no Dunns farming there by the 1901 census. I don’t know what became of James Dunn after 1896.

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Wednesday 23rd Mar 2022, 10:15AM

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