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My Great grandfather Bernard Nolan came to the US in 1863 from Cashel (now Newtowncashel) County Longford.  His parents were Patrick Nolan and Margaret Burke.  We have traced all of his brothers and sister except for Mary Nolan who married Michael Fallon. Mary was born 12/3/1854 and married Michael Fallon, Rathcline on 8/2/1875. It would be wonderful to know what happened to Mary and Michael Fallon - the family would be complete.  Help, if you can.

nolanburke

Thursday 5th Jul 2012, 07:10PM

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  • Hi there,

    Could you please provide more information about Mary and Michael Fallon, such as the period they were alive, etc.

    Civil registration records are available from the General Register Office (GRO). These start from 1864 however. You can access the website here: http://www.groireland.ie/research.htm

    Do you know much about their emigration? Dates, the reason why they left, etc? Generally more information was given at the port of arrival rather than the port of departure. If you knew which city they arrived at (e.g. Liverpool), this could be a good place to find more information, and perhaps even find out an exact place of origin.

    You can check for information about the frequency of the name in the mid-19th century and any other variant spellings of the name here: http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/surname/

    You could also try checking the land records called the Tithe Applotment Books (1823-38) or the later Griffith's Valuation (1848-64). Griffith's is freely available here: www.askaboutireland.com or here: www.failteromhat.com Failte Romhat has lots of other useful links you could try looking at. Tithe Applotment Books (1823-38). Microfilm copies of the books for all of Ireland are available at the National Archives of Ireland (NAI) http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy1/genealogy-records/tithe-applotment-books-and-the-primary-griffith-valuation/ or the Church of Latter Day Saints (LDS).

    The Tithe Applotment List might be of use to you, or at least interesting for you. These lists constitute the only nationwide survey for the period, and are valuable because the heaviest burden of the tithes to the Established Church, the Church of Ireland, fell on the poorest, for whom few other records survive. The information in the Tithes is quite basic, typically consisting of townland name, landholder's name, area of land and tithes payable. Many Books also record the landlord's name and an assessment of the economic productivity of the land. the tax payable was based on the average price of wheat and oats over the seven years up to 1823, and was levied at a different rate depending on the quality of land. For Parishes where the registers do not begin until after 1850, this information can be useful, as they are often the only surviving early records. They can provide valuable circumstantial evidence, especially where a holding passed from father to son in the period between the Tithe survey and Griffith's Valuation.

    There are estate records for cashel. Landlord: James Fox: Rental 1819, National Library of Ireland, Pos. 4065, All tenants.

    Lord Lorton: Tenants list, 1847. NLI, Ms. 18,2444. All tenants. Includes Cashel.

    Viscount Newcommen: 1826-27. NLI Ms. 2766. All tenants. Includes Cashel.

    Lord Oxmantown: 1798-9. National Archives of Ireland, M.1279. Major tnenats only. Includes Cashel.

    Please make sure you link anyone else in your family who is interested in their Irish heritage to our site - and indeed anyone else you know of Irish heritage.

    Kind regards,

    Sinead Cooney

    Genealogist (Ireland XO)

    Monday 16th Jul 2012, 01:39PM
  • I just got back from Ireland and with the help of Pauline in the Heritage Center in Longford found out that Mary (Nolan) and Michael Fallon may have moved to Killashee.  If so, they had two daughters (at least)  Mary and Margaret.  Mary may have married a Dolan.  It was a very successful trip.  Your advice was also helpful; we went to the National Library and the General Registry in Dublin.  Thanks very much.

    nolanburke

    Friday 3rd Aug 2012, 11:02AM
  • Sinead -

     

    Just discovered your website/project and believe you are going to be quite successful. I am hoping you can give me some direction.

    As a full-blooded Irishman, I have strong oral history that my GGF John Nolan came from County Galway – but no leads on the parish/townland.

    I have a John Nolan sailing from the Port of Galway on the Sarah Milledge and landing in New York in May of 1948. Town of last residence is listed as Galway and age of 28 years suggesting a DOB of 1820. He is my "best match."

    I have land records for my GGF evidencing his purchase of a 120 acre farm in Rock County Wisconsin in August 1850, paying $500.00 in cash. My assumption is that he brought capital with him from Ireland to facilitate that purchase. Subsequent US/Wisconsin census data suggest a DOB of 1820.

    Using Griffith’s, 1901 and 1911 Galway census data I have identified where the various “pockets” of Nolan’s are located. I just can’t make a connection to the correct parish/townland.

    That is my roadblock.  Perhaps there are shipping/civil records on those leaving from the Port of Galway?

    Any help would be greatly appreciated. My wife, Pattie (Roach) Nolan, and   I are planning a trip to Ireland next spring and would be grateful for any help or direction you could give.

     

    noleoni

    Friday 12th Oct 2012, 03:21PM

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