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Philip Savage born c 1805 in New Ross Co Wexford Married Jane Little of Spa Hill Borris Co Carlow daughter of William Little, after Philips death approx 1847-49, she married  Thackaberry, died in Kilkenny.  Any information about any Savage descendents of this family or about the Littles of Spa Hill would be very welcome.

Friday 20th Jul 2012, 08:27PM

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  • HI Valerie,

     

    You could try checking the land records called the Tithe Applotment Books (1823-38) or the later Griffith's Valuation (1848-64). The Tithe Applotment Books (1823-38): Microfilm copies of the books for all of Ireland are available at the National Archives of Ireland (NAI) http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy1/genealogy-records/tithe-applotment-books-and-the-primary-griffith-valuation/ or the Church of Latter Day Saints (LDS). Griffith's is freely available here: www.askaboutireland.com or here: www.failteromhat.com Failte Romhat has lots of other useful links you could try looking at.

     

    The Tithe Applotment List might be of use to you, or at least interesting for you. These lists constitute the only nationwide survey for the period, and are valuable because the heaviest burden of the tithes to the Established Church, the Church of Ireland, fell on the poorest, for whom few other records survive. The information in the Tithes is quite basic, typically consisting of townland name, landholder's name, area of land and tithes payable. Many Books also record the landlord's name and an assessment of the economic productivity of the land. The tax payable was based on the average price of wheat and oats over the seven years up to 1823, and was levied at a different rate depending on the quality of land. For Parishes where the registers do not begin until after 1850, this information can be useful, as they are often the only surviving early records. They can provide valuable circumstantial evidence, especially where a holding passed from father to son in the period between the Tithe survey and Griffith's Valuation.

    Civil registration records are available from the General Register Office (GRO). These start from 1864. You can access the website here: http://www.groireland.ie/research.htm

     

    Valuations office in Dublin (http://www.valoff.ie) will have a record of the land registry from 1855 to modern times. This will assist in seeing what happened to Savages/Littles and what happened to their land (as it usually passed on to a relation).

    There is lots of useful information to be found in the 1901 and 1911 census records. You can find this here: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/ .

     

    You could also try  http://www.nationalarchives.ie/ for church records in the area. If you have any difficulty, you could try writing to the parish priest for more assistance.

    I wish you luck in your search.

     

    Please make sure you link anyone else in your family who is interested in their Irish heritage to our site - and indeed anyone else you know of Irish heritage.

    Kind regards,

    Cynthia O'Connor

    Genealogy Support

    Ireland Reaching Out

     

    Thursday 9th Aug 2012, 11:35AM
  • Hi,

    Did you find any other information on the Little family, Spahill, Borris.  My great, great, great grandmother was a Little of Spahill.  There are no Littles in Spahill now but in the 19th century they had a substantial (by local standards) holding.  

    Mary O D

    Tuesday 26th Nov 2013, 09:15PM
  • My ggguncle Thomas doran glenglass killanne m a Mary little spa hill met in 1798. Wonder is she from same family

    Wednesday 9th Oct 2019, 03:15PM

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