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I am looking for information on Peter DUFFY and his wife Elizabeth (Bessie) REILLY, who lived in Tullybrick, Kingscourt, in the mid to late 1800's.

They had 11 children, the 10th of whom was my grandfather, Peter Francis Duffy, born in 1889.  He emigrated to Massachusetts, USA, in 1905.  I am trying to trace his ancestry and have not been able to find any information beyond the names of his parents as above.  I would like to know their dates of birth and the names of their parents and (if any) their brothers and sisters.

Any help is appreciated.

 

Tom Duffy

Illinois, USA

tmduffy

Friday 21st Sep 2012, 08:02PM

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  • Hi Tom,

     

    You could try checking the land records called the Tithe Applotment Books (1823-38) or the later Griffith's Valuation (1848-64) if you haven't already. The Tithe Applotment Books (1823-38): Microfilm copies of the books for all of Ireland are available at the National Archives of Ireland (NAI) http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy1/genealogy-records/tithe-applotment-books-and-the-primary-griffith-valuation/ or the Church of Latter Day Saints (LDS). Griffith's is freely available here: www.askaboutireland.com or here: www.failteromhat.com Failte Romhat has lots of other useful links you could try looking at.

     

    The Tithe Applotment List might be of use to you, or at least interesting for you. These lists constitute the only nationwide survey for the period, and are valuable because the heaviest burden of the tithes to the Established Church, the Church of Ireland, fell on the poorest, for whom few other records survive. The information in the Tithes is quite basic, typically consisting of townland name, landholder's name, area of land and tithes payable. Many Books also record the landlord's name and an assessment of the economic productivity of the land. The tax payable was based on the average price of wheat and oats over the seven years up to 1823, and was levied at a different rate depending on the quality of land. For Parishes where the registers do not begin until after 1850, this information can be useful, as they are often the only surviving early records. They can provide valuable circumstantial evidence, especially where a holding passed from father to son in the period between the Tithe survey and Griffith's Valuation.

     

    Civil registration records are available from the General Register Office (GRO). These start from 1864. You can access the website here: http://www.groireland.ie/research.htm Or you might try Valuations office in Dublin (http://www.valoff.ie) which will have a record of the land registry from 1855 to modern times. This will assist in seeing what happened to any land the familymay have owned (as it usually passed on to a relation).

    You could also try contacting the Cavan Co Library for further assistance.

    Cavan Genealogy,
    1st floor,
    Johnston Central Library,
    Farnham Street,
    Cavan Town,
    County Cavan.
    Tel: +353 (0)49 4361094
    Fax: +353 (0)49 4331494
    Email: cavangenealogy@eircom.net

     

    All the best.

    Genealogy support

     

     

    cynoconnor

    Friday 5th Oct 2012, 09:04AM
  • Hi Tom, I looked up the nationalarchives.ie & there were Duffy's in Tullybrick, Co Cavan. in 1901.  To-day there are still Duffy's living in that area.  There is a Hugh & Peter Duffy living in Drumillard, Kingscourt, Co. Cavan, they originally came from Tullybrick, which is across the road from that townland, if you wish to write directly to them, they maybe able to  help you.  Regards Carmel O'Callghan, Administrator Bailieborough area..  

    Bailieborough Cavan

    Wednesday 26th Dec 2012, 01:09AM
  • Hi Carmel,  Thanks very much for your help.  I actually know Hugh & Peter Duffy.  They're my second cousins.  I met them on a trip to Ireland a few years back.  And I've seen the 1901 and 1911 census records showing Duffy's in Tullybrick.  The Tullybrick & Drumiller Duffy's are indeed my family.  I've been able to trace the family back to my great-grandparents, Peter Duffy and Elizabeth (Bessie) Reilly, but I hit a dead end at that point.  I estmate they each were born in the 1840's or early 1850's.  They had 11 children, of which my grandfather, also named Peter Duffy, was #10.  He was born in Tullybrick in 1889.  The house he was born in still stands, and the cornerstone is dated 1831.  My grandfather emigrated to the US in 1905, on a steamship from Cobh.  What I'm hoping to find is information about the families of the first Peter Duffy and of Bessie Reilly.  Regards, Tom Duffy                                                                                                          

    tmduffy

    Wednesday 26th Dec 2012, 08:34PM
  • Hi Tom, I am glad you know your cousins.  Have you ever looked for Peter & Bessie's marraige cert, this may give you their parents names.  Given the dates, it will not be possible to get their birth certs.  If you know the date of the first born we could guess that the marraige may be 1 year before that.  Were there any priests or religious in the family, they are also well documented.    Do you know where the family buried ?  If you require any assistance please le me know..

    Regards Carmel

    Bailieborough Cavan

    Wednesday 26th Dec 2012, 09:56PM

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