I have found additional information on John Coleman's niece, Winnifred "Winnie" Keenan.
Winnie Keenan
born 16 OCT 1892 County Mayo - town/parish unknown
parent Names Patrick Keenan, mother's name unknown
Immigrated to NYC arrived 1 JAN 1911 on ship Cedric
Married Capels, Carroll in Syracuse NY
Died 25 AUG 1975, Syracuse NY
England and Wales Census 1901 -- Census Event Date: 31 Mar 1901 Gender: Female Age: 10 Relationship to Head of Household: Sister-In-Law Birthplace: Longton, Staffordshire Schedule Type: Household Registration District: Stoke Upon Trent Sub-District: Longton Ecclesiastical Parish: Edensor St Pauls Civil Parish: Lonton District/Parish/County: Staffordshire
Winnie Keenan's passenger record lists her as 20yr.2 mos. Servant can read and write. British citizen Race Irish. Last permanent residence England Langton, Father Patrick Keenan 76 Edensor Rd. Longton. final destination NY, Syracuse. arrival S.S. Cedric, sailed from Liverpool 24th Dec. 1910
She was the niece of my great-grandfather, John Coleman, b. Nov. 1858 Ireland (co. unknown) who immigrated to the US in 1879, Naturalized 1892 Butte MT, and by 1900 was a Saloonkeeper in Syracuse NY, died 1927 Syracuse NY.
I am looking for the town/parish where Winnie Keenan was born. Also, any information on John Coleman as to where he was from in Ireland.
Thank you for any help you may offer me in this search.
Mary
Mary Sangalang
Monday 25th Mar 2013, 12:01AMMessage Board Replies
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Hi Mary,
Thank you for your message.
Civil registration only became compulsory in Ireland in 1864 so given Winnie?s date of birth you should be able to find her birth record in these records. Civil records are available from the General Register?s Office in Dublin. Here is their website:
http://www.groireland.ie/research.htm
You can search the indexes to these records online at:
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1408347
For more information on civil records and how to obtain them go to: http://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/Irish-civil-registration.html
With regards to John, it may be more difficult as he was born before civil records began. The only record of his birth will be in local church records, however without knowing the parish he was from there is no way to determine what records you need to search in. There are some places online where some church records are available. You may be lucky and find some record relating to John that will give you a place of origin:
www.familysearch.org has a huge database of genealogical records including some church records for Ireland.
www.rootsireland.ie have a large collection of Irish Church records, however you have to pay to use this site.
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/ have begun a project to upload Irish church records to their site free of charge. However so far only Counties Dublin, Kerry, Carlow and parts of Cork have been covered.
Do you know if he was married before he left Ireland? If he was you could try searching civil records for the marriage cert in the hope that he got married after 1864.
Also have you looked into his emigration much? Generally more information was given at the port of arrival rather than the port of departure. If you knew which city they arrived at (e.g. Liverpool, New York, etc.), this could be a good place to find more information. -And perhaps even find out an exact place of origin.
For information on US immigration records check: http://www.archives.gov/research/immigration/
Some other websites that you may find useful are:
The National Archives of Ireland http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy1/genealogy-records/introduction/
The National Library of Ireland http://www.nli.ie/en/family-history-introduction.aspx
The National Archives UK ? genealogy search: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/
The Public Records Office of Northern Ireland http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/family_history.htm
Genealogy Links: http://www.genealogylinks.net/uk/ireland/mayo/index.html
I hope that this is helpful.
Kind regards,
Genealogy Support