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In the 1833 Tithe Applotment Books, there is a James Tully listed as living in Rinifarna and in Rinefarna townland in Kilglass parish.  However, I cannot find this townland on the map of Kilglass parish in the Leitrim-Roscommon site and it doesn't come up in the Loagin placenames site.  Did this townland disappear?

I am interested because there ware Hasty's living in Rattinagh in 1833 and I'm looking for a Catherine Hasty + John Tully marriage.  There were other Tully's in Kilglass parish in 1833 - in Druminmore, Drumman More, and Drumminnion, which may be all the same place, I suppose, since there was only Drumman more in the Griffith's.

Looking forward to hearing your answer!

Thank you very much!

Cindy Taupin

CMST

Saturday 20th Apr 2013, 09:55PM

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  • Cindy:

    Rinefarna is a subdenomination. See the link below for a better explanation but basically a subdenomination is part of a townland. Initially, I thought that Rienefarna was a subdenomination  of Knockhall townland but after comparing the 1833 Tithe records with the 1857 Griffiths records, I believe Rinefarna is a subdenomination of Drumman More townland.

    Roger McDonnell

    http://www.thejourneyhomegenealogy.com/what-the-heck-is-a-sub-denomination/

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Sunday 21st Apr 2013, 01:57AM

  • Hello Roger,

    Thank you very much for this information.  I never would have found it!  I was trying to make a connection to a Tully/Hasty marriage.  They were living in Cornacarta, Annagh parish, Mayo in 1851.  But the Tullys were supposed to have come there from somewhere in Co Roscommon.  I have a feeling that Kilglass is too far away but it's the only place I have found Hasty's and Tully's living in the same parish.

    On the other hand, if you come across a Tully family which has an Owen grandfather and a John, Patrick and Bartly in it, I would be very interested.  It looks like there may have been a Bartly Tully in Drumman more in 1833 but I'm not sure.  I will have to try to see the original.

    Thanks again,

    Cindy

     

    CMST

    Sunday 21st Apr 2013, 08:30PM

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