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Looking for information about Denis J Horgan, b. about 1866 (or 1862) in Cork and his wife Mary Moynihan b. 1865
One of his children (Thomas Bernard Horgan) left draft records in US for WWI that has Denis' birthplace as Girthineden, Cork, County Muster, Ireland (just guessing on the spelling of the first part).
Denis was married to Mary, born about the same time. May have emigrated/married about 1890.

1900 census find them in Little Falls Ward 3, Herkimer NY
Denis b Jun 1866
Mary b Apr 1865
Julia b Nov 1891
Dennis b Apr 1892
John b Mar 1895
Thomas b Jan 1897
Francis b Nov 1898

Ten years later, the 1910 census finds him in Utica Ward 8, Oneida, NY:
Denis 44
Mary 44
Julia F 18
Denis Jr. 17
John P 15
Thomas B 13
Francis J 11
Leo W 8
Mary H 6
Edward A 3

1930 census finds them still living in Utica
Denis J 63
Mary 63
John P 35
Francis J 31
Leo W 28
Mary 25 (was Mary K at 1910 census)
Edward A 23

Son Denis later married Madeline Bechard (sometimes Madaline or Magdalyn) and moved to Philadelphia and had seven children: Gerard J. Horgan (b 1918), Zelda Horgan (b 1920) infant death @ age 2), John Horgan (b. 1922), Thelma Horgan (b 1924), Rosemarie Horgan (b. 1925), William Horgan (b. 1926) and Elizabeth Horgan (b. 1937) (actually one of John P. Horgan's children, adopted following the untimely passing of his young wife).
 

Saturday 20th Jul 2013, 12:20AM

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  • Hi,

    Thank you very much for your message.

    The first thing that you need to do is try to establish where in Cork Denis and Mary originated from. I could not find any reference to Girthineden so this is either misspelling of the name or a incorrect transcription. It is possible that it was written down phonetically so it may be referring to a place name that begins with ?Gurt? which is much more common in Ireland than Girth.

    You may be able to find some records of the family in civil records. Civil registration began in Ireland in 1864, so if given the years of births you have mentioned you should be able to find Denis and Mary?s birth records. If they were married in Ireland you should also be able to find their marriage record. This will help you to narrow down place of origin. Civil records are available from the General Register?s Office. Here is their website:

    http://www.groireland.ie/research.htm

    You can search the indexes to these records up to 1958 online at:

    https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1408347

     

    You could also try searching online for church records. Irish Genealogy have recently begun to upload Irish church records to their website free of charge. So far with regard to Cork, only Catholic records from the Diocese of Cork and Ross (Cork city and some parts of Cork County) have been uploaded. Hopefully the family originated from one of these places and you can find some records pertaining to them:

     

    http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/

    You could also try:

    www.familysearch.org has a huge database of genealogical records including some church records for Ireland.

    www.rootsireland.ie have a large collection of Irish Church records, however you have to pay to use this site.

    Have you tried looking into the family?s emigration? Sometimes more infomation can be found at the port of arrival rather than that of departure. You may be lucky and find a place name here. For information on US immigration records check http://www.archives.gov/research/immigration/

    Some other websites that you may find helpful are:

    The National Archives of Ireland http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy1/genealogy-records/introduction/

    The National Library of Ireland http://www.nli.ie/en/family-history-introduction.aspx

    Irish Times: http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/index.htm

    Cork Past and Present: www.corkpastandpresent.ie

    West Cork Genealogy: www.westcorkgenealogy.com

    Failte Romhat: www.failteromhat.com

    Genealogy links: http://www.genealogylinks.net/uk/ireland/cork/index.html

    Remember to post any new information that you find here. The more information you post, the more likely it is that one of our volunteers will be able to advise or assist you. Also include information concerning which sources you may have already used so others may further your search.

    Kind regards,

    Genealogy Support

     

    Wednesday 24th Jul 2013, 10:54AM
  • Found Denis' place of birth: Kilnamartyra, County Cork. His wife, Mary Lenihan Moynihan, was born in April 1865, in Millstreet, Cork, Ireland.

    Saturday 4th Jan 2020, 09:22PM

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