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When reading the image of the Marriage of James Crowley & Johanna Tobin in 1833 at Bandon, the witnesses appear below the names of the couple. The right hand column appears to have the names of the male fathers of each party. Is this correct?

The only baptism of a James Crowley of feasible age, with a father James as indicated in the right hand column is at Enniskeane 10th June 1814 to parents James Crowley & Margaret Crowley.

The only baptism of a Johanna Tobin that I can find is at Bandon on the 22 January 1816 to parents John Tobin & Julia Coghlan

The Irish naming patterns also seem to fit approximately

Do you think I'm on the right track with these? 

Friday 14th Feb 2014, 09:18AM

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  • Dear roshane

    Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out and thanks for your query

    In relation to your question on the marriage below, it seems that those mentioned on the right-hand column are the parents, as their surnames reflect those of the parties getting married, while the witnesses? names underneath tend to differ. The witness often has the letters ?wit? written before their names. http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/reels/cork%20%26%20ross.ballymodan%2C%20kilbrogan%20%26%20desert%20serges%20%28bandon%29.p4793.00587.pdf

    In terms of verifying the baptisms of a James Crowley, all you can do is work on assumptions and search on the basis of the parents? names, parish name and ages. People, especially women married at a young age. However, just because a record may not fit into the perceived template, does not mean that it is not relevant. You should retain all of records you manage to find on the basis that at some point in the future you will be able to make a definitive decision. So far, you are doing well!

    Best of luck with your search

    Clare Doyle

    Genealogy Support

    Wednesday 19th Mar 2014, 03:17PM

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