I am the great granddaughter of Mary Frances Kerwin, born to James Kirwin and Mary Ann McGin, who were married at Brookeborough RC Chapel on June 13, 1880. The family was fractured when Mary Frances left the family home while still a teenager. I have no idea why, and shortly before I lost my grandmother, she told me when she and her mother travelled to Ireland (my grandmother was about 9 at the time), they were turned away from the family home. So I am sure it was very serious at the time, but my amazing niece is a 19 year old pilot carving out a career for herself in northern Canada and as she takes these great steps forward, I would like to be able to tell her where she came from as well. Any information you have would be greatly appreciated.
Saturday 31st May 2014, 06:04AM
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Kerri:
I looked through the 1901 census for Brooksboro (spelling varies) and could not locate any Kirwin/Kirwan families. In the 1911 census, I located a Sarah Kirwin who was a servant in a household in Brookeborough.
Roger McDonnell
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Fermanagh/Brookeboroug…
Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Roger - this one is a little closer:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Fermanagh/Grogey/Carri…
I am not really sure of how the townland and parish systems work, that's why I usually mention the marriage first. We're not 100% sure of this census as the child is listed as only Mary and not Mary Frances.
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hi,
this thread looks like the same family being discussed...
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=673970.0
This looks like the family in 1911, spelt KERIVAIN living at Corlough (Brookeborough, Fermanagh)
Corlough is the townland...
Brookeborough is the Electoral district...
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=673970.0
As you say in 1901 they were lving at Carrickpolin (Grogey, Fermanagh).
I don't know how far the 2 Townlands are apart.
You could try asking your question to the Fermanagh mailing list, here is the link to join...
There are a number of very helpful, local people who would be happy to help you...
http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NIR/FERMANAGH-GOLD.html
GOOD LUCK...
Regards,
SEAN
sean99
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Kerri:
The one question about your census record is that the father is John not James. I also notice that there was a Sarah in this household and possibly it is the 26 year old Sarah in the record I found in 1911.
Sean has given you some good suggestions so I would focus on those two areas.
Keep us posted and let us know if you have more info or questions.
Roger
Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Roger - I definitely plan to start on Sean's suggestions. The James/John thing on that census, the children (Sarah et al) are listed as grandchildren, so I believe James was the grandfather and they were all living in his house.
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John Cunningham was my ancestor ( he married Susan Wenlock) and I am a member of a Queensland Australia Cunningham family. I have traced him through Ancestory.com.au and found out a little. Then I did a websearch and came up with this.
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"John CUNNINGHAM and Susan WENLOCK married in 1851,Sydney,NSW). JOHN CUNNINGHAM was born in CLEENISH,near Enniskillen, County Fermanagh in 1827. His parents were HENRY and MARY CUNNINGHAM. Both were still living in CLEENISH in 1850 when JOHN emigrated to the colony of NEW SOUTH WALES. He settled in the Dungog area of N.S.W Australia and in 1851 married SUSAN WENLOCK, a needlewoman,originally from Barking,Essex, ENGLAND. LOUISE CUNNINGHAM, 1 of their 9 children, married THOMAS MCDONAGH in 1877. "
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source - http://www.curiousfox.com/uk/mbprof2.lasso?eid=156709&-nothing I found a record of a burial of a John Cunningham in 1900 in New South Wales Australia with father listed as Michael Cunningham and mother as Alice and wife Susan but I am not sure it is the same man.
Have you any information about John Cunningham, please.
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Sandra:
Can I suggest that you post your message in either the Cleenish Fermanagh parish page or the page for Co. Fermanagh. Other than me and Sean and Kerri, no one willl see your message. Possibly others mya have info to help although you are going back into the early 1800s.
I don't know if your family was RC but if show the Cleenish RC records start around 1835 which is likely too late for John's baptism. The 1862 Griffiths Valuation head of household listing for Cleenish civil parish shows a Henry Cunningham in Letterbreen townland in Cleenish parish. This could be the father of John or maybe a brother. If it was the father then maybe the birth index record below is also him.
Roger
First name(s) Henry Last name Cunningham Age 92 Birth year 1776 Registered year 1868 Death year 1868 Registered quarter/year 1868 Registration district Enniskillen Volume 17 Page 43 Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘