Hello everyone
My sister and I are coming over to Ireland (from Australia) at the end of next month, arriving on 28th September and will be staying three and a half weeks.
We would like to meet any family we have connected with our grandmother, Annie Josephine Goggin born in Bantry on 29 June 1882 to Richard Goggin and Margaret McCarthy.
I thought I'd ask your help to see if anyone, by chance happens to know some Goggins or McCarthys who know their family history. We would be very grateful to you if you could help us, as time is of the essence.
Below is the information I have regarding these ancestors.
Annie had a brother named Patrick and a sister named Mollie but the only record I've found (that I hope is correct) is the 1901 census record where both girls were staying in New Street, Bantry with their uncle and aunt, James and Nora Goulding, who were shopkeepers, and their children, Frances and Albert. I also found Annie in the 1911 census staying with her aunt, Kate Hurley in Killeenleagh. I found a census record of Patrick in 1911 married to Nora and they had a daughter, Agie and they lived in 4 Marino Lane, Bantry. There were other records in different towns.
I found a record of the marriage of Richard 'Gaggin' and Margaret McCarthy stating that he was from "Killeanlea" (probably Killeenleagh), his father's name was Patrick and Margaret's father's name was Denis.
The only record I have found regarding Richard's possible family is of a Patrick Goggin in Killeenleagh who married Bridget Hinigan (the other spellings of her surname were Henigan, Hennigan and Honagan) in Drimoleague and they had seven children: William, Tom, John, Margaret, Pat, Francis and Richard who were all baptised in Caharagh. Whether this is my great grandfather I don't know.
A Denis McCarthy was married to Catherine Hayes (in Schull East), and they have a daughter named Margaret born in Bantry but this may not be the right mother, although Margaret's year of birth with these parents was 1847 and the one I have for Richard Goggin is 1853. Was it the custom for women to marry younger men in those days?
All these records I found before we decided to come to Ireland and so I've spent the weekend digging and have found nothing conclusive. I found nothing further on the Gouldings (1901 census) and neither Richard nor Margaret had a sister called Nora or Honora in any of the records I attribute to them.
The other children of the union of Denis McCarthy and Catherine Hayes are Jeremiah, Laurence, Timothy, Catharine and Nans. There only record of Denis McCarthy wth a daughter Margaret is to Julia Sullivan but the year of birth is 1841, which would make her 13 years older than Richard Goggin if the record I have for him is correct.
Thank you
Paula
Miss Paula
Sunday 24th Aug 2014, 03:09PMMessage Board Replies
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Hi Paula the Baptism of Mary Goggin was in RC Diocese Cork & Ross Parish of Bantry 16th Feb 1878. Sponsors William Goggin & Kate McCarthy (this would be "Mollie" you mention)
Re the Gouldings following marriage record
James Goulding to Hanoria McCarthy April Quarter of 1891 Reg District Bantry VOL 5 Page 20.
You can obtain a PHOTO COPY of this record for 4? from
www.groireland.ie
Will update you if I discover any relevant info.regards Frances
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Hi Paula
There are 10 Goggins in Cork in the Irish phone book (eircom)
You might drop them a line as you never know your luck
ColColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Thank you Frances and Col for your help; much appreciated. I will look into checking out the phone book!
Paula
Miss Paula
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I will check in the Bantry Baptism Register to get the dates of baptism for the 5 siblings for you later this week. You might like to read http://bmdnotices.com/in-memoriam/viewremembrance.aspx?remembranceid=1037 and the Summary of the Minutes of Bantry Town Council where Patrick and Mary featured after 1910 on http://bmdnotices.com/commissioners.pdf
Frank
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Hello Frank
Thank you so much for those links; they are invaluable. Finally I have proof that the members on the family tree are actually correct and it was by clicking on the first link you gave me that showed me this. I cannot tell you how happy that makes me.
I had found the census records for the Nugents but wasn't sure if they were correct. I had also found the records of the marriage of Mary's father's parents and his siblings and put them on the tree and now I know they're also correct. I had also found the record of Mary's mother's parents' marriage but didn't know if she was the right wife. So I now know who Mary's maternal aunts and uncles are.
Thank you again, you've made my day.
Paula
Miss Paula
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Paula,
Good and I hope to get baptism dates for the children over the next few days. The names you have quoted earlier will help me.
Cheers
Frank
Edit:
Careful checking is needed to avoid mixing families and just getting names to fit.
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Hello Frances
Thank you for telling me about the Irish using Mollie for Mary - I didn't know that.
Thanks also for the record of the Gouldings' marriage. Interestingly my great grandmother (Margaret McCarthy), according to my research, didn't have a sister called Hanoria, although there is a record of a child called Nans, which may be Nora, but I looked at the church record and it doesn't look like Nora, it acutally looks like Nans. Perhaps she is the sister of Margaret's sibling, which would make her my grandmother's much older cousin and I imagine she'd be called Aunty instead of by her first name due to the age difference, as she married when my grandmother was 11.
Bye for now
Paula
Miss Paula
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I believe that is written as "Nano" and not "Nans" in the Church. I will check it later this wek plus a few baptisms.
Frank
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