McCue

www.nationalarchives.ie has Census/Tithe Applotment/Griffith Valuation records for McCue in roscommon
There is a Michael McCue in Cloncoose in 1833 Tithe Applotment records.

Regards Frances

Hello Jeanie,

I was just loooking at a 2000-2001 phone book for the area and noted that coincidentally there was a Michael McCue listed in Turlough, Castlebar and a Joseph McCue listed in Turville, Co. Roscommon. Both of these locations are relatively close to the Townland of Clooncose.

As an aside, I will be traveling to Co. Roscommon in April and will be in Mohill (very close to Clooncose). I expect to be in the area for a week or more. I will be at the History center in Stokestown Co. Roscommon for my own research and near Leitrim Village doing research. If there is anything I might be able to do some quick research on, let me know. No guarantees, but I'll give it a go.

You might want to give this site a look. There could be some relavent information there. The only comment I would make is that the Barony may actually be "Mohill", and the Civil Parish may be "Cloon". I noted these differences at other sites.   http://www.irelandgenweb.com/irllet/townlands/Clooncose2.htm

Sl?n,

Bill

Jeanie:

The spelling of the townland in Tumna parish is Clooncoose. Here is a link to the 1855 Griffiths Valuation head of household listing for Tumna parish. You will note that there are three McHugh entries in Clooncoose townland. So likely in Ireland at least in 1855 the surname was spelled McHugh. One of the three was a John, not sure if this is your 1832 John. When did the family leave for Vermont?

http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/roscommon/tumna.htm

I checked the online Irish phonebook and did not see a McHugh or Kilbane listing in the area.

I also checked the Roots Ireland indexes and could not find any baptismal records for the family.

Roger McDonnell

Hello Jeanie and Roger, 

First, Roger: Thank you for the link to the Tumna Parish Griffith's Valuation.  It is different than the one I had and gives me better insight into my extended family in Drumboylan Townsland along with additional hints.  Thank You!

Jeanie, I was looking for Clooncose Townsland for you since I am going to be in the area soon.  Based on both Frances' and Roger's research there is a question that needs resolution.  Since there are many Cloon... Townlands, are you sure it is Clooncose, in Co. Leitrim or possibly Clooncoose, in Co. Roscommon, or one of the others?

I dug a little deeper based on Roger's great link and found the corresponding Griffith's link for Cloone Parish in Co. Leitrim:

http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/leitrim/cloone.htm

At this site you will find 16 McCue entries!  None of those are in Clooncose Townland, but there are two Patricks, one John and one Anne.

Good Luck,

Bill

Hello Bill, Roger, and Frances

Thank you so much for a quick response!  I need to check out all these leads with my info and can I respond in a few days with better followup?  But yes, I see the problem with my spelling of townland Cloon....  The info I have on Pat McCue born 1806 is Parish Tumna, townland Clooncose, diocese Elphin.  I am unable to determine if the barony is Boyle or not.  So I think if the parish is listed as Tumna, I must be looking in Roscommon.  Also, the McCues and the Kilbanes, as well as the Dervins, McGuires, and possibly Reillys all intermarried in either Ireland or Rutland VT.  I have documentation from VT that these families (as well as nearly all of Rutland it seems)  came from county Roscommon.  All these families were in the marble business in America even owning companies eventually.  Does that marble background make sense for this area? 

Thanks soooo very much so much to think about.  I welcome all responses and ideas!  I will see if I have further insight when I carefully review all your terrific help.

Jeanie

Hello Bill, Roger, and Frances

Thank you so much for a quick response!  I need to check out all these leads with my info and can I respond in a few days with better followup?  But yes, I see the problem with my spelling of townland Cloon....  The info I have on Pat McCue born 1806 is Parish Tumna, townland Clooncose, diocese Elphin.  I am unable to determine if the barony is Boyle or not.  So I think if the parish is listed as Tumna, I must be looking in Roscommon.  Also, the McCues and the Kilbanes, as well as the Dervins, McGuires, and possibly Reillys all intermarried in either Ireland or Rutland VT.  I have documentation from VT that these families (as well as nearly all of Rutland it seems)  came from county Roscommon.  All these families were in the marble business in America even owning companies eventually.  Does that marble background make sense for this area? 

Thanks soooo very much so much to think about.  I welcome all responses and ideas!  I will see if I have further insight when I carefully review all your terrific help.

Jeanie

Hello Bill, Roger, and Frances

Thank you so much for a quick response!  I need to check out all these leads with my info and can I respond in a few days with better followup?  But yes, I see the problem with my spelling of townland Cloon....  The info I have on Pat McCue born 1806 is Parish Tumna, townland Clooncose, diocese Elphin.  I am unable to determine if the barony is Boyle or not.  So I think if the parish is listed as Tumna, I must be looking in Roscommon.  Also, the McCues and the Kilbanes, as well as the Dervins, McGuires, and possibly Reillys all intermarried in either Ireland or Rutland VT.  I have documentation from VT that these families (as well as nearly all of Rutland it seems)  came from county Roscommon.  All these families were in the marble business in America even owning companies eventually.  Does that marble background make sense for this area? 

Thanks soooo very much so much to think about.  I welcome all responses and ideas!  I will see if I have further insight when I carefully review all your terrific help.

Jeanie

Hello Bill, Roger, and Frances

Thank you so much for a quick response!  I need to check out all these leads with my info and can I respond in a few days with better followup?  But yes, I see the problem with my spelling of townland Cloon....  The info I have on Pat McCue born 1806 is Parish Tumna, townland Clooncose, diocese Elphin.  I am unable to determine if the barony is Boyle or not.  So I think if the parish is listed as Tumna, I must be looking in Roscommon.  Also, the McCues and the Kilbanes, as well as the Dervins, McGuires, and possibly Reillys all intermarried in either Ireland or Rutland VT.  I have documentation from VT that these families (as well as nearly all of Rutland it seems)  came from county Roscommon.  All these families were in the marble business in America even owning companies eventually.  Does that marble background make sense for this area? 

Thanks soooo very much so much to think about.  I welcome all responses and ideas!  I will see if I have further insight when I carefully review all your terrific help.

Jeanie

Hello Bill, Roger, and Frances

Thank you so much for a quick response!  I need to check out all these leads with my info and can I respond in a few days with better followup?  But yes, I see the problem with my spelling of townland Cloon....  The info I have on Pat McCue born 1806 is Parish Tumna, townland Clooncose, diocese Elphin.  I am unable to determine if the barony is Boyle or not.  So I think if the parish is listed as Tumna, I must be looking in Roscommon.  Also, the McCues and the Kilbanes, as well as the Dervins, McGuires, and possibly Reillys all intermarried in either Ireland or Rutland VT.  I have documentation from VT that these families (as well as nearly all of Rutland it seems)  came from county Roscommon.  All these families were in the marble business in America even owning companies eventually.  Does that marble background make sense for this area? 

Thanks soooo very much so much to think about.  I welcome all responses and ideas!  I will see if I have further insight when I carefully review all your terrific help.

Jeanie

Hi Jeanie, I'm familiar with this family.  My family lived in the same town as them in the 1800s and early 1900s. I think the notification technology on this website is questionable  so I dont know if you'll get this message so I dont want to waste my time, til I know you received this.
Peter in Vermont

Hi Peter

Yes I received this right away! So I am descended from Patrick Henry McCue who left VT to become rep for marble companies in the midwest.  He settled in Chicago which is where this branch still is....of course including me. Patrick Henry married Marianne Riley from Rutland.

Looking forward to hearing from you!

Jeanie

Hi Jeanie, My family was involved in an unfortunate row with the McCues in1876. I can send you a link to the details off site. Bernard had a son Bernard  who remained in Rutland. That family took the McHugh spelling.

Peter--Thanks so much for the reply! I do know about the 1876 incident.  wow! It seems everyone in Rutland in those days was rough and tumble! But my branch of McCue (Patrick Henry so Barney's nephew) left VT pretty much around then for chicago and I think knew very little of what went on in VT and I am very unclear on the subsequent lives any of the families there--both McCue/McHugh and Paton actually.  So my email is kbljal@sbcglobal.net and i would really like to hear your stories of the VT clans.

Jeanie

Hello Everyone,

My name is Pam and I just joined this site after finding this thread. The family you speak of is mine too. Or I believe so. A few years ago I tested my DNA on Ancestry and received quite a surprise. I am 50% Irish with Roscommon as my community. This is the puzzle. I can see how all of my paternal matches are related to each other, but not how I fit into the puzzle. 

My matches come from a combination of 2 brother/sister McCues marrying brother/sister Mullins. The children in question are Margaret McCue 1836-1900 and James F. McCue 1876-1944. They are the children of Patrick McCue 1806-1880 and Ann McGuire 1806-1878. They married 2 Mullin siblings from the union of Patrick Mullin 1801-1867 and Alice Corning 1809-1902. Both sets of parents were born in Roscommon and ended up in Rutland working in the quarries. 

One of the other siblings William P. McCue 1875-1938 had 3 children. Two of them are on my dad's baptismal record as sponsors. I will not get into the long story here, but just wanted to reach out and say hello. Your conversation/inquiry here makes me feel like perhaps I belong somewhere. I am not sure if my dad is an NPE or if my grandfather had another child. He died when my dad was 2. My dad's mom spoke very little about my father's dad. The man on his birth certificate was assumed to be his father. He and my grandmother married when she was 9 months pregnant. 

Thank-you for being here and sharing.

Pam

I made on a blunder on my first post. Sorry. I  have a zillion dates in from of me. Margaret's brother James F. McCue has dates of 1843-?. He is the father of James F. McCue 1876-1944 who has family with some of my dna matches and his brother William P. McCue 1875-1938 is the dad of my father's sponsors. James the younger married Bridget Alice Mullin 1843-1917. She is the daughter of Patrick Mullin and Alice Corning. 

Confusing I know. Believe me...LOL Please don't kick me off the site. I need you guys and gals.

Pam

Hi Pam

I see we are a DNA match on Ancestry at 5th-8th cousin link. I couldn't follow where your dad comes in on the McCue tree from your notes here.  But this is what I did put together for you:

Patrick McCue m Ann McGuire

Children: Mary, John (my ancestor), Margaret (m to Michael Mullin), James H (m to Bridget A Mullin), Bernard (murdered in Rutland!!), Patrick, and Terrence. Michael Mullin and Bridget A Mullin are siblings as you know.

James H McCue m Bridget A Mullin

Children: Bridget A, Alice T, James F, William P, Ellen E and a daughter I don't have on my tree but I know existed.

So I couldn't follow how you drop down from William P McCue. 

My email is kbljal@sbcglobal.net  So please contact me there with ideas and insights. Do you know anything about the Rutland McCues? They were quite the bunch!

Jeanie Lewis

Chicago

Hi Jeanie/Cousin,

It is a pleasure to meet you. Thank-you so much for responding so quickly and for clarifying what I was so poorly trying to say. My excitement got the best of me. To answer your most important question, I do not know how my dad or I fit into this family, I only know that all my father's paternal matches for me come from 2 marriages thus far, Michael Mullin and Margaret McCue and James McCue and Bridget Mullin. The track I am following is James and Bridget. Their 2 sons William P and James F are of interest. William P went on to have siblings who are on my dad's baptismal record as his godparents. The line of James F has the highest DNA match that I share thus far. She was adopted, but is pretty certain that her father was from this family. 

I have been puzzling this over in my head for a very log time. There is so much more to it all. Not sure if I will piece it together unless I get a larger match. Like I said previously, I know how everyone is related to each other, but now how I am related to them. I know hardly anthing about the Rutland McCues. I read the account of Bernard/Barney's death and know that the family worked in the quarry. The sons seemed pretty spirited. I would welcome any history and/or thoughts. 

I will reach out by email at some point today so that you have my contact info.

Thank-you so much,

Pam

Hi, everyone. I am new here. My great-great-grandparents were Michael and Margaret (McCue/McHugh) Mullin, born in Ireland, settled in Rutland, VT. Have a fair amount of info, but would love to exchange with you.

I am descended from their son Patrick "Harry P." Mullin and his wife Anna Kerrigan of West Rutland. Anna was probably born in Ireland.

Their daughter Anna Margaret Mullin married John Morrissey. They were my maternal grandparents,  who died before I was born. I have been researching every twig of the family tree in the U.S. for about thirty- seven years. 

Nice to be here!

Frannie 

Fmosconirn@gmail.com 

My ggf Patrick "Harry P." Mullin, son of Michael and Margaret McCue Mullin, 1866-1913. Harry is third from the left, in front of his marble and granite shop in West Rutland, VT, ca 1910.