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In my research of northern ireland, i found mention of the need to populate northern ireland in the 1600s. as its population was quite low gor such a large area.
One way was to migrate, or plant, people who were scottish born, so that the land could be farmed and worked. However, i have no idea how to progress this further ... anyone able to help?

Friday 17th Aug 2018, 10:05PM

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  • Kayemac,

    The reason for sending large numbers of Scots (and also English and Welsh) settlers to Ireland was less about filling up empty spaces, but more about trying to ensure that Ireland had a loyal population that would support the Crown, in the event of a Spanish or French invasion. The Spanish Armada had only just been sent on its way a couple of decades earlier and there was a serious fear that Spain or France would try to invade England, using Ireland as a stepping stone.

    There are numerous books on the Plantation of Ulster, but one that focuses on Scots who settled there that  I can recommend is “Eagles Wings – The journey of the Ulster Scots & Scotch-Irish” by Dr David Hume. It takes you through the history of the move to Ireland (which happened in waves all through the 1600s for different reasons eg famine in Scotland in the 1690s) and then explains why in the 1700s and later so many of those Scots settlers were dis-satisfied with life in Ireland and moved again to North America or elsewhere.

     

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Friday 17th Aug 2018, 11:12PM
  • Kaye, you may be interested in a TV series "The Story of Ireland" presented by Fergal Keane. Episode 3  "The Age of Revolution" explores how the influx of Scottish Prebyterians during the 17th-century Plantation of Ulster changed the make-up of the island and its' subsequent history. The series was first shown on RTE and is currently on BBC4. Episode 3 will be on BBC4 at 10 p.m. on Monday 20th August. I don't know if it's available on BBC iPlayer or any other catch-up service.

    Maggie May

    Saturday 18th Aug 2018, 09:41PM
  • Thank to you both!! Very much appreciate all of that info .. i will find the book and the tv show. Both sound like it will complete (or more likely open up) the little knowledge i have so far
    I went to sleep last night musing on the fact that while all this was happening for ireland, australia was yet to be discovered!! Amazing ...
    Thank you again to both of you!!

    Sunday 19th Aug 2018, 09:48PM
  • Thank to you both!! Very much appreciate all of that info .. i will find the book and the tv show. Both sound like it will complete (or more likely open up) the little knowledge i have so far
    I went to sleep last night musing on the fact that while all this was happening for ireland, australia was yet to be discovered!! Amazing ...
    Thank you again to both of you!!

    Sunday 19th Aug 2018, 09:48PM
  • Thank to you both!! Very much appreciate all of that info .. i will find the book and the tv show. Both sound like it will complete (or more likely open up) the little knowledge i have so far
    I went to sleep last night musing on the fact that while all this was happening for ireland, australia was yet to be discovered!! Amazing ...
    Thank you again to both of you!!

    Sunday 19th Aug 2018, 09:48PM
  • Thank to you both!! Very much appreciate all of that info .. i will find the book and the tv show. Both sound like it will complete (or more likely open up) the little knowledge i have so far
    I went to sleep last night musing on the fact that while all this was happening for ireland, australia was yet to be discovered!! Amazing ...
    Thank you again to both of you!!

    Sunday 19th Aug 2018, 09:48PM
  • Thanks for posting this. It makes a bit of sense as to how Borland relatives could have ended up in Spain then back in Ireland before coming to the USA and Canada. My father had written this to me upon learning I was looking for family history:

    “At MB Archives  there is a HALPENNY PAPERS that was hand written by a lady that tells about The Borlands ...like/ Uncle Les took Her to Her seat at first church service

    There is also one ..who, when the US-CAN Border was going in and He would have been living on US side ...said I dont want to be a dam yankee and moved to this side. In the past they lived in Spain  Ireland then in eastern Canada before coming to Manitoba “

    Kimberly

    Sunday 19th Aug 2018, 10:22PM
  • Kaye, you didn't need to thank us 4 times! 

    Some people had already discovered Australia but Europeans hadn't noticed as they were busy in America or fighting each other.

    Kimberley, I take it that you're  referring to what is known as "The Flight of the Wild Geese" or simply "Wild Geese" from Ireland to mainland Europe from 16th century onwards.

    The history of Ireland was entwined with European history and power struggles and wars going on in Britain and mainland Europe. It became complex at times.

    An acclaimed  tv series on Irish history was broadcast by BBC in 1980s.It was presented by historian Robert Kee, based on his 3 volume history of Ireland. He published a single volume work to coincide with the tv programmes.

     

    Maggie May

    Monday 20th Aug 2018, 07:43PM

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