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My name is Robert R Roche. I am a decendent of Michael Roche who married Mary Lyons on 3 Feb. 1818 in Doneraile. They had eight children, three boys and five girls. I have been able to trace the boys. Most of them were born on Buttevant Lane. Two years ago I made a trip to Doneraile and met with the pastor of the Catholic Church. He told me that Church records did not go back before 1800.

Unfortunately, the three boys came to the USA; as did Mary, their mother, who came later in 1856.  I did find a record of the oldest daughter, Ellen in the Doneraile School; 2/5/1827 at nine years old on Rootsireland.

Is there any other way to find out if any of the other children attended the school? Is there anyway to find out if the girls married and to whom?  

Additionally, is there any way to find any information about Michael Roche, his birth date, his parent's names? I took part in a YDNA test through Family Tree DNA and I matched with an Alan Roche at a genetic distance of 2.

His family was also from Doneraile at that time. I was told our most distance ancestor shared a grandfather in about 1730 in Doneraile. I am trying to close that gap between 1730 and 1800.

I'm sure this is a impossible task, but any help or input would be much appreciated.

Regards,  Robert Roche                                                                                              

 

 

 

Bob

Monday 25th Feb 2019, 02:21PM

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  • Hi my relative Honora Roache born about 1810 married Thomas Crone Esq 1810-1871 in Doneraile in 1833. Two of his brothers James and Patrick Crone married Catherine and Theresa Roche James and Catherine Crone came to Australia about 1862 as did Thomas and Honora Roache Crone. Thomas father was Richard Crone lived in Ballyellis Doneraile all noted on peerage pages Thomas Crones mother was Elizabeth Browning
    His daughter Margaret Crone 1844-1906 married Richard Couche lived in Brigown Mitchelstown Cork as did Richard Crone Some Roche families from Mitchelstown went to Canada as Peter Robinson settlers Would love to cmpare notes Jeanne Solity

    Forbesgene

    Friday 9th Jul 2021, 01:06AM
  • I believe I saw a possible Roche /Roache in Baldwin St Brigown a few doors up from my relatives house. I am from Melbourne Australia Recently on ancestry I saw details of Casey columns hard to get hold of He lists thousands He wrote thirty or more volumes noting details of people from the area. They may be worth a look Honora, Thomas Margaret and Richard Crone and others marriage are noted there Please keep in touch it is really difficult to locate my Roache families Jeanne

    Forbesgene

    Friday 9th Jul 2021, 01:16AM
  • Hi Jeanne

    It would have been so easy to find our female ancestors if they would have put the first and last name of the father and mother's maiden name.

    It seems the most popular names of that time were Mary, Elizabeth, Catherine, Ellen and Honora and I have all of them in my Roche family. It is possible that some of my family 

    went to Australia, but there is no way I can find to prove it. Let's just say, if you were to ask the Roche family in Baldwin if they knew where in Ireland they were from

    and who their most distant ancestor's names were, you would know if they were or were not your ancestor. In my case, if they were from Doneraile and the 

    parents' names were Michael Roche and Mary Lyons in about 1818 then I would know for sure.

    Thanks for answering.

    Bob Roche

     

    Bob

    Friday 9th Jul 2021, 10:19PM
  • A Michael Roche is on the Griffiths valuations site he lived in Baldwin st Brigown Mitchelstown take  alook and see if it maybe him

    this is a reference detailing  the Lyons family members in Ireland http://www.lyons-family.co.uk/Lyons/trees-lyons/nli/alphabetical-christian-names/alphabetical.html

    Another good reference I found is the Doneraile papers composed of  A collection of estate and personal papers generated by the family of St Leger, Viscounts
    Doneraile of Doneraile Manor, Co. Cork, relating to estates mainly in counties Cork and Waterford, 1756-1950 
    There are some Michael Roches in it The reference is You can download it from the web Let me know how it goes

    Leabharlann Náisiúnta na hÉireann
    National Library of Ireland

    Collection List No. 62

    Doneraile Papers

    [MSS 32,851-32,999; 34,000-34,217; D 27,326-47; MS 16,519; MSS 19,681-3; MS
    19,726; MS 21,717; MSS 21,850-1; MS 21,985; MS 22,027; MS 23,463; MS 24,927;

    and maps 16 J.(16), (18-20)]
    (Accession No. 5669)

    A collection of estate and personal papers generated by the family of St Leger, Viscounts
    Doneraile of Doneraile Manor, Co. Cork, relating to estates mainly in counties Cork and
    Waterford, 1756-1950. The collection also includes material relating to the Castletown
    estate in Queen’s county due to the marriage in 1874 of the 2nd Lord Castletown (Bernard
    Edward Barnaby Fitzpatrick) to Ursula Clara Emily St Leger,

     

    Best wishes Jeanne 

    Forbesgene

    Thursday 15th Jul 2021, 02:36AM

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