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Hello everyone!  I am looking for any information on the family of John Robert Higginson of Drumshanbo.  He was the owner of the pub in Drumshanbo on the main street, according to family lore. He was born c 1860 and d 1910.  His wife is Jane Tyman, of Toomna. They had daughters Fanny, Jane and Harriet. There may be other children too.  

 

Any info/pics/ would be fantastic!

Lorraine - Canada

Lorraine

Sunday 7th Apr 2019, 01:33PM

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  • actually, John was born c1848!

     

    Lorraine

    Sunday 7th Apr 2019, 01:42PM
  • Lorraine:

    According to the 1901 census, John was 63 which would make his year of birth around 1837 and many times age was underestimated. Note the 1901 census record has Jane born in Co. Leitrim not Roscommon. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Leitrim/Drumshanbo/Drumshanbo_Town/1483697/  The 1911 census has her county of birth as Roscommon.  http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Leitrim/Garadice/Lahard/646337/

    I did check for John's baptismal record with no success. However, since he was Church of Ireland, I checked and baptismal records for Drumshanbo church are not available until 1885.

    Roger McDonnell

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Sunday 7th Apr 2019, 05:29PM
  • Hi Roger

    Thank you for the infomation!

    I will keep looking!

     

    Lorraine

    Lorraine

    Monday 8th Apr 2019, 12:26PM
  • HIGGINSON OF CORNAMUDDA

    What I can tell you is that John Robert Higginson, through his nephew Frederick Higginson (Census 1901) was the brother of Thomas Higginson of Cornamudda, Drumshanbo. Thomas' records confirm their father was Francis Higginson of #2a Cornamuddagh in Griffith's Valuation 1857, and their mother, Eliza, lived on until 1896. (See the ancestor profile for Thomas for sources and links). 

    There were 4 farms in Cornamudda and the Higginson farm #2 was held in partnership by William, Francis and Robert Higginson, and Robert Coyle (presumed married to a Higginson). William Higginson  & partners were recorded in Cornamuddagh in the tithe applotments of 1834. These "partners" were clustered together in a family rundale village (or clachan) near the roadside.

    So John Robert Higginson was born in farmhouse 2a (see attached)  It does look like there are traces of the old Higginson settlement still there. See googlemap street view here of the gate leading into it. 

    Rua, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘︎

    Thursday 11th Apr 2019, 06:19AM
  • Hi Roger:

    I have J.R. HIgginson's death - 1908 and it says he was 60 which puts his birth around 1848. I don't put too much emphasis on ages in census - they are invariably incorrect! His death age could also be incorrect .... 

     

     

    Lorraine

    Sunday 14th Apr 2019, 03:22PM
  • Regarding discrepancies in Irish Census Returns, see: 

    Intentional Age-Misreporting, Age-Heaping, and the 1908 Old Age Pensions Act in Ireland

     

    [Chronicle with source links for John R. Higginson of Drumshanbo]

    Rua, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘︎

    Monday 15th Apr 2019, 06:41AM
  • Thank you, Rua - that is a great resource!

    Lorraine

    Tuesday 16th Apr 2019, 12:32PM
  • Lorraine:

    As Rua indicated the Old Age Pension Act resulted in more accurate ages on the 1911 census and possibly some age inflation. The 1901 census ages were generally lower than reality but age was not as important then until the Pension Act was passed. I've seen ages increase 20 years between 1901 and 1911.

    Roger

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Tuesday 16th Apr 2019, 02:40PM
  • Lorraine

    Monday 22nd Apr 2019, 01:06PM
  • Sorry it was Rua who provided the Higginson details ... Rua, are we Higginson cousins?

    Lorraine

    Monday 22nd Apr 2019, 01:06PM
  • Hi Lorraine

    Yes it was I. But no relation that I know of (although most of Ireland is related by 6 degrees). I'm just volunteering for the Boyle-Carrick district.

    Rua, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘︎

    Tuesday 23rd Apr 2019, 07:18AM

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