2Hello all! My first post, and a longshot at that. I have 4 direct Irish ancestors, some were second and third great grandparents. All were born between 1818-1856. All four ended up in Detroit, Michigan, USA. I am coming to the Crowley reunion in Macroom in September with my cousin! I can only tell you their names, approximate year of birth, and two state
they were from Cork, Ireland.
John Crowley. born 1818. emigrated to Bangor, Maine. Married Margaret O Leary, in Bangor Maine, Feb 20,1849. Two daughters, Ellen and Mary. Roman Catholic, moved to Detroit. Buried at Mt Elliot Cemetary, 1880, at age 62.
2. Margaret O Leary. born~ 1825. Place unknown, burial unknown. Died approx 1855 of ? cholera. Only record I have is her marriage.
3. Jeremiah O Connor. born Cork, Ireland, ~ 1854, died in Detroit Michigan, 10 July 1918. Buried Mt Olivet cemetary in Detroit. 3 sons, Dennis, Jeremiah Jr, Hugh and daughter Lucy
4.Hanorah 'Nora' Sullivan, daughter of John, born ~ 1854, Cork, Ireland. Came to Detroit Michigan, "as a young woman", according to her obituary. died 9 Sept 1914, Detroit, Mi. Buried at Mt Olivet. Spouse of Jeremiah.
I have done DNA on ancestry, My Heritage, FTDNA and GEdmatch. My kits are AL8645737. FTDNA are B460161. I have one Sullivan/OLeary/Crowley match who says his Crowleys are from Eyeries. His Sullivan line is from Baruile, Clogeen,Allihies, Kerry.
Tuesday 9th Jul 2019, 03:11PM
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Here are 3 John Crowley 1818 baptisms from www.rootsireland.ie/:
Name:John CrowleyDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:31-May-1818Address:DounavalaParish/District:KILLAVULLENGender:MaleCountyCo. Cork
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Patrick CrowleyMother:Mary BurkeOccupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:John Fowley Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Ellen BurkeName:John CrowlyDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:08-Mar-1818Address:KnucruoParish/District:KILNAMARTYRAGender:MaleCountyCo. Cork
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Cornelius CrowlyMother:Catherine RiordanOccupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:Jeremiah Crowly Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Ellen Buckly
Notes:PRIEST: P STAFFORD
Name:John CrowlyDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:14-Dec-1818Address:Convamore/ballyhoolyParish/District:CASTLETOWNROCHEGender:MaleCountyCo. Cork
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Jeremiah CrowlyMother:Mary SheehanOccupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:John Crowly Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Jane SheehanHere's one from Macroom:
Name:John CrowleyDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:08-Oct-1816Address:
Parish/District:MACROOMGender:MaleCountyCo. Cork
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Not Recorded Not RecordedMother:Mary CrowleyOccupation:
You can search Clogheen records in the National Library R C registers (free at registers.nli.ie/)www.irishgenealogy.ie/ is also good for Cork records
Margaret O'Leary 1825 Cork:
Name:Margaret LearyDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:29-Jul-1825Address:
Parish/District:COACHFORDGender:FemaleCountyCo. Cork
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Patrick LearyMother:Bridget WalshOccupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:Patrick Corkeran Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Mary BurdenName:Margaret LearyDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:31-Oct-1825Address:
Parish/District:MACROOMGender:FemaleCountyCo. Cork
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Timothy LearyMother:Mary KeleherOccupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:Timothy Riordan Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Johanna CallaghanName:Margaret LearyDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:25-Nov-1825Address:
Parish/District:COBHGender:FemaleCountyCo. Cork
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Jeremiah LearyMother:Ellen SullivanOccupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:William Ahern Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Elizabeth SullivanOnly 1 for Jeremiah 1854
Name:Jeremiah ConnorDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:05-Feb-1854Address:BallybegParish/District:BUTTEVANTGender:MaleCountyCo. Cork
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:John ConnorMother:Mary McDonaldOccupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:Cornelius Lennihan Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Honora McDonald
Notes:CELEB:[C BUCKLEY]
CHILD NAME E[JERH] 1ST SPONSOR NAME E[CORS] 2ND SPONSOR NAME E[HON]None for Honora for 1854 but 2 from 1855:
Name:Honora SullivanDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:05-Feb-1855Address:
Parish/District:INNISCARRAGender:FemaleCountyCo. Cork
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:John SullivanMother:Bridget CoughlanOccupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:Denis Sullivan Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Mary AhernName:Honora SullivanDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:03-Jun-1855Address:GlaunleighParish/District:BANTEERGender:FemaleCountyCo. Cork
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:John SullivanMother:Mary HowardOccupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:Michael Howard Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Mary MurphySometimes they followed the Irish naming pattern when naming their children which might help you eliminate some of the above
First son named after father's father; second after mother's father; first daughter after mother's mother second daughter after father's mother;
Col
ColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Hello:
As ColCaff stated above, there are a number of possibilities for you and I would advise that before you arrive for the Crowley reunion, you have as much information about your family done from the U.S, side. Have you looked at their headstones? Sometimes, a place is mentioned. If there are siblings to any of these great-grandparents, they should also be researched, as one of them may have included more information in their records.
I would also keep the DNA match with the location of Eyeries in mind as that may be a very good clue for your search for Crowleys, although you could be matching him on your other family lines.
The best of luck with your search. We have a Crowley volunteer who is involved in the Crowley gathering and I'm going to forward this post to her.
Kind regards,
Jane
Jane Halloran Ryan
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from Thank you both for your kind replies! My cousin and I have been searching fervently to gather as much information as we can prior to our trip. I have seen headstones for O'Connor and Sullivan, no references to others. I have spoken with cemetary regarding John Crowley, no stone at all. Plot paid for by his church, unable to locate his exact spot, and I am unable to purchase him one. Margaret died place unknown, possibly during travel from Maine to Michigan We have no siblings, only children We will keep looking until we can find something Have also been pursuing dna leads My DNA all points to Munster, NW CORK, W Cork, SW Cork and NE Cork:) Mystifying! I thank you again for your assistance and will explore these leads Best Regards, Nancy
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Dear Nancy:
We're here to help. I think that your attendance at the Crowley clan gathering will really assist your research. Keep us posted as to your progress and if you need anything further, please let us know.
Kind regards,
Jane
Jane Halloran Ryan
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Thanks Jane. I am the original poster's (Nancy Bzura Foulk) 3rd cousin and traveling with her to Cork and Macroom in August for the Crowley Clan gathering in Macroom. Nancy descends from my great grandfather's (John Crowley b 1818) first wife Margaret O'Leary and I descend from his 2nd wife Ellen McCarthy born about 1834 somewhere in County Cork. Ellen (Hellen?) ends up in Detroit and marries my great grandfather in 1856.
Neither Ellen, John or John's first wife Margaret O'Leary seem to have come to the USA with any relatives as there isn't a group living together or traveling together from Maine to Michigan. It is hard to believe that there are no siblings to any of these persons. John and his 1st wife Margaret O'Leary have 2 daughters, the first being named Ellen and the 2nd named Mary. John and his 2nd wife have 2 children: John Eugene Crowley and Hanora Veronica Crowley both born in Detroit, Michigan. Might the middle names Eugene or Veronica be a clue????
My dna is centering around Macroom. My gedmatch kit #A855545, also my uncle on my Irish side has tested and his kit #A941210.
Nancy and I are so excited to travel to Cork and Macroom in a few short weeks! We know we will be close to our origins......just wish we knew more of exactly where in County Cork they originated.
PS: John Crowley always is listed as a "laborer" in the USA. We are assuming that he worked in the lumbering business in and around Bangor Maine and why he came to Detroit is a mystery to us. Maybe he worked on the extension of the Erie Canal???? In Detroit he worked as a "laborer". So I am thinking he was not from a farming family in Ireland?????
Again, any insight you can give will be greatly appreciated.
Barbara Cloutier Richards (great great granddaughter of John Crowley born 1818)
Barbara Cloutier Richards