Carroll living in Brian Boru Street, Clontarf (on the 1911 census)

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Hello Anne,

I’m not related and do not have any information about present day descendants of Michael Carroll and Emily Power, but found more information about Michael and Emily’s families that you and your Power cousins in the U.S. may or may not have.

For instance, in doing some research at the free irishgenealogy.ie website, I found the civil birth records of at least three more children of Michael and Emily, a daughter Rosanna, born in 13 Brian Boru Street on 18 April 1912, and twin sons, Leo and Kevin Carroll who were born in 13 Brian Boru Street on 21 February 1914. All three birth records are attached. Rosanna’s is Number 384 in the birth register. Leo’s birth is the last entry in the register at Number 74, while Kevin’s birth is recorded at the top of the next page of the register at Number 75.

The addition of two more sons to the Carroll family (Leo and Kevin), may increase the chances that someone will recognize these particular Carroll and Power families.

The irishgenealogy.ie website has not digitized birth records past the year 1918, and so Michael and Emily may have had even more children. The irishgenealogy.ie website plans to add more birth records in the future past 1918.

The 1911 census shows that Michael Carroll and Emily Power had been married for 8 years, placing their year of marriage circa 1903. I found their marriage record at the irishgenealogy.ie website showing they were married on 31st May 1903 in the Catholic Chapel of St. John’s, Clontarf, by Father Patrick Hayden. The marriage record also shows that Michael was of “full age,” when he married and that he was a labourer living in Seaview Ave, Clontarf at the time of marriage. His father is recorded as Patrick Carroll, also employed as a labourer. The marriage record further shows that Emily was a “Minor,” (meaning under age 21) when she married and that her residence was also Seaview Ave. in Clontarf. Her father is Edward Power, employed as an agent. The witnesses to the marriage were William Barrett and Christina Purcell.

I don’t know if you have this marriage record, but in case you do not, I’ve attached it to this reply.

I next wanted to see how old Emily would have been when she married in 1903, and so looked for her birth record at the irishgenealogy.ie website. Her birth record would not only give a date of birth for her, but would also record her mother’s first and maiden names. The clues to finding her birth were that she was living in Seaview Avenue at the time of marriage in 1903, was under 21 years of age, and that her father’s name was Edward Power.

With this information I found her birth record showing that Emily Power was born in Seaview Avenue, Clontarf, on October Second 1883. Her father is Edward Power of Seaview Ave., Clontarf. His occupation is “Labourer.” Her mother is Julia Power, formerly Kavanagh. The person who was present at the birth and who reported the birth to the local registrar was Margaret Gregory of Seaview Ave., Clontarf. Margaret may have been the midwife who delivered Emily. The registrar, Wm J. Gibson, recorded the birth in the Dublin North registration district on October thirteenth 1883. Emily’s birth is Number 480 in the birth register, which is attached.

Emily would have been 19 years old when she married on 31 May 1903, but would have turned 20 in October of that year.

I next looked for the civil marriage record for Emily’s parents, Edward Power and Julia Kavanagh at the irishgenealogy.ie. I didn’t find a civil marriage record for them.

The irishgenealogy.ie website had also indexed and digitized a large selection of Catholic and Protestant marriages for Dublin City and surrounding area in its Church Records collection. I found a transcription of the marriage record for Edward and Julia, but not a copy of their original church marriage record at irishgenealogy.ie

Then couple were married in St. Agatha’s Catholic Church, Dublin, on 7 August 1870. The record further shows that at the time of the marriage Edward and Julia’s residence was 4 Annesley Place, that Edward’s father was also Edward and that Julia’s father was Michael Kavanagh. The witnesses to the marriage were Thomas Skinner and Anna Rourke.

The transcription is below:

Area - DUBLIN (RC) , Parish/Church/Congregation - ST. AGATHA

Marriage of EDVARDUS POWER of 4 ANNESLEY PLACE and JULIA KAVANAGH of 4 ANNESLEY PLACE on 7 August 1870

Husband: Edvardus Power
Address: 4 Annesley Place
Occupation: N/R
Father: Edvardus Power
Mother: N/R

Wife: Julia Kavanagh
Address: 4 Annesley Place
Occupation: N/R
Father: Michaelis Kavanagh
Mother: N/R

Further details in the record

Witness 1 THOMAS SKINNER
Witness 2 ANNA ROURKE

About the record

Book Number Page Entry Number Record_Identifier
N/R N/R N/R DU-RC-MA-12633
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I also found a transcription of the marriage at the Find My Past (FMP) website, which is mainly a subscription-based or Pay-As-You-Go website, but does not charge to search Catholic baptisms, marriages, and available church burial transcriptions for all of Ireland for much of the 19th century.

The search engine for the FMP baptism transcriptions can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/jnmqmuv

The search engine for Catholic marriages can be accessed at: http://tinyurl.com/jzylkjy

For Catholic Parish burial transcriptions go to the search engine at: http://tinyurl.com/j9qe5p9

However, not all Catholic Church Parishes in Ireland kept burial records at this time.

In turn, and most importantly, attached to the FMP baptism, marriage, and burial transcriptions are links that will take you to copies of the original parish registers held by the National Library of Ireland in Dublin.

I haven’t included the full FMP marriage transcription to this reply as it is lengthy and also under copyright. But I have provided a link to access the transcription so that you can see what it looks like before you see a copy of the original Catholic marriage record. The transcription can be found at: https://www.findmypast.com/transcript?id=IRE%2FPRS%2FMAR%2F0604716%2F1

As you will see a little later the person who transcribed the marriage at FMP reversed the last names of Julia’s parents, showing that her father Michael’s last name was Hoy rather than Kavanagh, and that her mother Maria’s last name was Kavanagh, when her last name was actually Hoy.

Michael’s parents are Edward Power and Anne Kelly.

Linked to the above transcription is a copy of the original marriage register for St. Agatha’s Catholic Church in Dublin. The register, as noted earlier, is held by the National Library of Ireland in Dublin. You can access the register at: https://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000633465#page/39/mode/1up

There are two facing pages to the register. Marriages in the register span both pages. The marriage for Michael and Julia is the last entry in the register.

You can enlarge the page by means of round icons in the upper center/ right of the screen. The icons are white with green backgrounds. You can also access the full-screen function by clicking on the last icon on the right with the two arrows pointing northeast and southwest.

The register gives information that the above transcription does not, in that it records the residence of Michael and Julia’s parents and also the residence of the witnesses, Thomas Skinner and Anna Rourke. I could not decipher the residence for Michael’s parents, Edward and Anna Kelly Power, but the address for Julia’s parents, Michael and Maria Hoy Kavanagh, is 10 Seaview.

On the right-hand marriage register page you’ll see that the address for the witness, Thomas Skinner is Seaview Avenue and the address of Anna Rourke is 4 Annesley Place, which is the same address for Edward Power and Julia Kavanagh. The name of the priest who married Edward and Julia was J. O’Hanlon.

Using Annesley Place as a base, I next went to Google Maps to see how far away Brian Boru Street is. I found that Brian Boru Street is 2.5 miles east of Annesley Place across the Tolka River in Clontarf. See the map at: https://is.gd/chyOHE

The following link will take you to a Google Street View of Annesley Place: https://is.gd/uXXJ6G

The next link will bring you to a Google Street View of Brian Boru Street: https://is.gd/Lfp3EK

I now wanted to see where Seaview Avenue is located in relationship to Annesley Avenue, and found two nearby streets with the name Seaview Avenue. These are Seaview East, Dublin, and Seaview Avenue North, Clontarf.

Seaview Avenue East is just 6/10ths of mile southeast of Annesley Place on the same side of the Tolka River as shown on the Google Map at: https://is.gd/iY3MWd

Seaview Avenue North is ¼ of a mile east of Annesley Place across the Tolka River just off the Clontarf Road: https://is.gd/T4nLjR

For a Google Street View of Seaview Avenue East, go to: https://is.gd/S7clzN

For a Google Street View of Seaview Avenue North, looking from the Clontarf Road, go to: https://is.gd/R7g6Cv

Next I looked for Michael Carroll’s birth. His marriage record shows he was of full age in 1903 and that his father was Patrick Carroll. The marriage record also shows that he and his father were employed as labourers, and that at the time of marriage he (Michael) had been living in Seaview Ave., Clontarf.

Being of full age in 1903 means that Michael had been at least 21 years old or older, and so I looked for his birth record between the years 1875 and 1882 and found it. Michael was born in Seaview Avenue, on July 15, 1877. His father is Patrick Carroll, a labourer whose residence is Seaview Avenue. Michael’s mother is Rose Carroll, formerly Quinn. Rose, of Seaview Ave., Clontarf, reported the birth to the local registrar, whose first name was Wm (William), but whose last name I couldn’t make out. He recorded Michael’s birth on September 1, 1877. Michael’s birth is the last one in the register at Number 112, and is attached to this reply.

I then found the civil marriage record for Patrick Carroll and Rose Quinn. They were married in the Catholic Chapel of Clontarf on 12 February 1866. At the time of marriage Patrick was 28 years old, had been a bachelor, and was employed as a labourer residing in Clontarf. His father is also named Patrick and was also employed as a labourer. The marriage record also shows that Rose Quinn was a 23 year old spinster, employed as a labourer, and residing in Seaview Terrace, Clontarf. Her father is Michael Quinn, employed as a labourer. The priest who married Patrick and Rose was Philip Lamberry. The first name of one of the witnesses appears to be Patrick, but I could not make out his last name. The second witness was Ann Quinn, who was probably Rose’s sister. The marriage entry is Number 21 in the register, which is attached to this reply.

I looked for but didn’t find the church marriage for Patrick Carroll and Rose Qinn at the irishgenealogy.ie website’s Church Records collection, or at the Find My Past website.

You had mentioned the family of Michael and Emily Carroll in the 1911 census living in Brian Boru Street, Clontarf.

I also found Michael and Emily in the 1901 census before they were married. The 1901 census shows that living in an address of 21.2 Seaview Avenue, Clontarf, is Michael Carroll, a 24 year old builder’s labourer, born in Clontarf. He is listed as the head of the family, which also consists of his two brothers, 21 year old Laurence Carroll and 16 year old John Carroll, both builder’s labourers and also born in Clontarf. None of the three brothers is married. You can view a copy of the original 1901 census of the Carroll brothers at the following National Archives of Ireland link: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Clontarf_East/S…

Living nearby, perhaps in the same building as the Carroll family, at 21.1 Seaview Avenue, is 13 year old “Emmily” Power, her parents, 47 year old Edward and 48 year old Julia, as well as her siblings, 13 year old Julia and 12 year old Maggie. Edward’s occupation is newsagent.

You can view a copy of the original 1901 census for the Power family at the National Archives of Ireland link at: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003674768/

As you can see Emily’s age in the 1901 census is off by several years. At 13 years of age in 1901, she would have been born circa 1888. Her birth record however, shows she was born in 1883. The ages of individual family members in the 1901 as well as the 1911 census returns are often inaccurate, some by a few years, while others at several years, as is the case with Emily. In any event the 1901 census returns for the Carroll and Power families show that Michael and Emily had been neighbors before they married in 1903.

The 1901 census also shows that Emily and her sister Julia are the same age at 13 years old, indicating they were twins. But I located Julia’s birth record at the irishgenealogy.ie website which shows she was born in Seaview Avenue, Clontarf, on December fourth 1887. Her birth is entry Number 404 in the birth register, which is attached.

The are 8 attachments with this reply. These are:

Rosanna Carroll’s 1912 birth record
Leo Carroll’s 1914 birth record
Kevin Carroll’s 1914 birth record
The Carroll and Power 1903 marriage
Emily Power’s 1883 birth
Michael Carroll’s 1877 birth
The Carroll and Quinn 1866 marriage
Julia Power’s 1887 birth
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Kind Regards Anne,

Dave Boylan

Wow Dave

You have gone to such a lot of trouble for me, which I really appreciate, thank you SO much.

I have passed your reply on to my Power cousins in the USA, whom I know will also be extremely grateful.

The Power family also lived on Seaview Avenue Clontarf and their son James Joseph married Sarah Phoenix (also from Seaview Avenue) she was my grandfather's eldest sister.

James's brother Thomas Power married Mary Fottrell (also from Clontarf) the 4 of them lived very closely and reared their families in Philadelphia, USA

James Power, Thomas Power, Edward (1871-1928), Annie (1873-1942) Julia (1887) Maggie (1889-1974) all emigrated to Philadelphia, USA

Emily Power who married Michael Carroll appears to have been the only one who stayed in Dublin.

They also had a brother Joseph (born 1878) and a sister Mary Anne (1879) and we are unsure of where they lived.  They also had two other siblings who sadly died in Clontarf as babies.

Thank you so much for your very kind reply and all your reseach.

Anne

 

Hi Anne

My name is Susan Gilroy. I am the great grand daughter of Emily Power & Micheal Carroll of Clontarf.

My Grandmother Anne Carroll was their daughter and my Father Kevin Gilroy is their Grandson.

It is my birthday today 21st March and I share the same date with my Grandmother Anne also March 21st.

I would be delighted to talk with you to share our stories of our ancestors and thank you so much to Dave, the man who has given so much wonderful dates and details.

Nice birthday present, thank you Dave.

Susan Gilroy

You're welcome Anne and Susan, and Happy belated birthday to you Susan.

Anne, I just came across your follow-up reply from 14 October 2019, or I would have responded much earlier. Sorry for the delay. Once again thank you.

With Very Best Wishes to you both.

Dave