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My great grandparents were from Enniskillen Fermanagh Ireland. 

John James Cox 1835 - 1910.  He is buried in Navan Ontario Canada. 

His wife, Jane Cluff 1840 - 1916.  She is also buried in Navan Ontario Canada. 

John's parents, James Cox and Mary Anderson.   Dates of birth unknown.  Also from Enniskillen Fermanagh Ireland. 

They all came to Canada approx. 1862.

John James' brother William Cox, came to Canada first it seems.  1830 - 1906.  He is buried in Navan Ontario Canada. 

We are told there was another brother who went to Australia rather than Canada. 

We know nothing of their Irish life or any relatives above James and Mary Cox.

Canadian

Tuesday 14th Jan 2020, 02:40PM

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  • Statutory birth registration started in Ireland in 1864.  Prior to that you need to rely on church records, where they exist. To do that you need to know the person’s religious denomination. Do you know what the Cox & Cluff families were?  Looking at the 1901 census of Fermanagh, nearly all the Cox were RC, and all the Cluff were Church of Ireland (Anglican).

    If the family were RC, then there were 2 churches in the parish at that time. Enniskillen has baptisms from 1838 and marriages from 1817; Tempo has baptisms and marriages from 1845. The Church of Ireland has almost no records for Enniskillen parish before 1861. (They were lost in the 1922 fire in Dublin). Tempo has baptisms from 1836 onwards. The RC parish records are on-line free on the National Library site:

    https://www.nli.ie/en/family-history-introduction.aspx

    There’s a copy of the Church of Ireland records for Tempo in PRONI (public record office) in Belfast. They are not on-line anywhere so far as I am aware.

    I had a look for a marriage between John & Jane. RC marriages weren’t recorded in the statutory records prior to 1864. Other denominations and register office ceremonies were recorded from 1845 onwards. I didn’t find a marriage for them. That suggests to me that, if they married in Ireland, Jane converted to RC and they had an RC marriage. If so you might find an adult baptism for her, typically a month or so before the marriage. You can search for both the baptism and the marriage in the RC records on the nli site.

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Wednesday 15th Jan 2020, 10:52AM
  • Thank you for all the information. 

    I do believe the Cox's were Church of England.  When they came to Canada, they attended the Anglican Church. 

    I was told John Cox  and Jane Cluff married after they left Ireland, but James Cox and Mary Anderson must have married in Ireland.

     

    Canadian

    Wednesday 15th Jan 2020, 09:31PM
  • Going by John James Cox’s year of birth, his parents were married by 1835. If they were Anglican (ie Church of Ireland) and married in Enniskillen parish then sadly the relevant records are lost.

    The censuses for the 1830s to 1891 are also destroyed so no records there. It may not be easy finding any information on this family.

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Wednesday 15th Jan 2020, 10:51PM
  • Thank you Elwyn.  This is what I was sadly thinking.  

    Canadian

    Thursday 16th Jan 2020, 01:44PM

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