The McKees

Hi,

Robert went to the USA 15.08.1921    Final destination says.......Conn. Westerfield.

John same place as Robert (above)

Elizabeth Frances   went to Indianna 

Eleanor Violet   Ellen   went to Rhode Island 

William  I have searched, I can't find him, sorry.

Hi John . . . 

Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out . . . to Tipperary . . . and to the Town of Roscrea.

Margot (above) has already given you some  info. on Emigration . . . . with various names and dates . . . . . 

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So . . . as I am Roscrea born . . . maybe I can assist you a little further . . . lets see . . 

CENSUS . . . 1901  Census for Kings County ( a.k.a Offaly now ) wherein lies the Village of Shinrone (see below)

Elizabeth . . Daughter in Law ( 38 ) . . . is listed . . with her 4 children

Ellen (10)    John (8)   Frances (6)   Robert (4)

So Elizabeth . . . is minding the Elder Father in Law . . William aged 84 . . 

BUT . . who was Elizabeth married to . . . was that Robert ??. . . who is in the R.I.C. ( hence was not listed on the Census on the night -  in Barracks . . they were listed only under initials . . 

William was BORN in Leitrim County . . . BUT . . when I search for his Birth . . 1818  Leitrim  +/- 5 yrs. . . I find nothing . . .on Ancestry & Roots (paid)

AND . . because . . in the R.I.C. . . he is being posted around Ireland  . . SO . . its hard to determine WHO & Where . . he Married . . .

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CENSUS . . . 1911 . . . Shinrone . . . Elizabeth . . .is now with NO children . . . but only a Boarder  . . a P.J.Murphy ( Insurance Ins.from Co.Cork )   (see below)

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SO . . here's a question  . . . you have rightly found a Wm.McKee . . .in 1911 Census . . . living with relations. . . aged 21 . . BUT born in Queens Co.

Have you any proof that this William . . is . . in any way related ??  I dont think so . . . because . . . Elizabeth appears (1901) to have her 4 children born in Kings Co. (Shinrone) ..full stop.

(see below)

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http://www.from-ireland.net/cms/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Luttrell-1.j…

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My being from Roscrea Town . . . I remember Luttrells Grocery Store and Buthers . . . also Hunts . . . 

Luttrells would have ceased trading . . . I'm guessing . . . around the 1970'ies

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So what of ELLEN (20) . . . FRANCIS (16). . . and     ROBERT .(14) . . . in 1911  ??

As per your info. . . we find Robert . . . in 1911 . . . with the Hunt family . . Trainee . . . in Roscrea.

FRANCES (16) . . in 1911 . . I find her in PORTUMNA .Co.Galway . . with the Family of the Vicar . . (C of.I.) E.E. Rush . . and Family.

Portumna Town . . . is near enough . . to shinrone . . . 

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ELLEN . . . in 1911 . . . I FAILED to find Ellen anywhere in Ireland . .

BUT here is her Birth recording (see Below). . . . Gleaulbet Co. Tipperary . . . should read " Glenalbert" . . a St.Patrick's Day baby  !!!

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https://www.irishtimes.com/topics/topics-7.1213540?article=true&tag_organisation=Harp+Society

Jim Herlihy . . . is the most knowing in Ireland . . . for tracing R.I.C. members  . . . Facebook . . . The Harp Society

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I did NOT search . . any . . info. on Emigration . . . . . 

I hope you find a nugget or two . . . in the above . . . 

Good luck with your continued searching 

 Best I could do . . . Cheers . . Eamonn

Margot & Eamonn,
Many thanks for your replies. It'll be interesting to try and track down my American relatives.

Hopefully, this will sort things out.
RIC files tend to be very reliable. From the RIC file: No 3271 William Mckee, was born in Leitrim 1818c. Married 22/11/1847, wife from Kings. Have never been able to get the cert, but I'm sure she's Ellen Sommers. why, because she's down as Ellen and her grandchild's second name is, Robert Sommers McKee. Although William and sons are all C-O-I, it's possible that Ellen was RC.

Two (3?) of William's sons joined the RIC: Robert A McKee, b1850c, No 34548; Henry McKee, (my great, great grandfather) 1855c No 39381 and William James, b 1862c No 46808. The reason I'm sure of the two is that Robert's family were living there 1901 Census and Henry's first child Maude, b 1882, was born there.
Frustrating for me, there are likely to be more offspring, but with no GRO records, I'm at a loss as to how to track them down. I tried some church records, but came up with a blank.

Elizabeth and her family were living in Shinrone 1901, because her husband, Robert (above) dies in 1897 - the same yr his mother Ellen McKee died. He was working as a caretaker (retired from the RIC) at the She Hills ? Roscrea, when he died.

I didn't include Frances aged 16, 1911 Census, Portumna, Galway, because she wasn't in Roscrea. Head of the house was the Rev, Edward, Evans, Rush. Evans is the maiden name of her mother, Elizabeth McKee.

I do have proof that William McKee, Jnr, is the son of Robet and Elizabeth McKee. In the 1901 Census he is living with his grandfather and aunt at 8 Shanbeg, Rosenallis, Queens. His grandfather is William Evans, a boot maker. This is the same information that Elizabeth gave on her marriage Cert, 9th Nov 1882.

I was hoping that I might have some relatives still living in the Roscrea area, but as Margot has shown, my only chance will be if William McKee, who was living in the Moutmellick area and was a sextant 1911 remained.

Elizabeth McKee nee Evans, dies in Mountmellick in 1930.
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If anyone is interested in finding out about the uncles and cousins of the children who left for America.

Uncle Henry McKee bro of Robert & William
Left the RIC 1890. Believed to have gone to NYC - never found any records - and died early 1900's.
All cousins: his children
Elizabeth Louisa McKee. 1885-??
Went to NYC. Possibly living at 72W 105th St, NYC

William Alfernon McKee 1886-??
Went to New Jersey, early 1900's, where his relations, The Pauls, still live.

Amy Margaret McKee. 1888-??
Intriguingly, both she and William were supposedly sponsored by an Auntie Mooney. No more information. Possibly went to live with her sister (see above).
Married twice: ?? Kennedy and John Fales. No children or dates.

The other cousins: John McKee, Maude McKee and Eva McKee, remained in Dublin. Contact me for more info.

Uncle Wiliam James McKee 1862-???
Possibly living at 1 Schenectady, NYC 1905 Census. District Rotterdam. Single.

Thanks once again to both of you. If anything comes up, I'll let you know
John

John, I have copied your first post to a tree owner in the USA.
Explained about this IRO site etc.
I have put in the SQL links.
I do hope they contact you.
Margot

Hi John,

I'm the person that Margot contacted. Frances was my great-grandmother and immigrated to the US in 1911. One of her children is still living and very sharp at 91 years old.

I would love to connect and share what we can about the McKee family.

Thank you!

Suzanne

To Margot,
Once again many thanks, especially for putting me in contact with Suzanne.

Suzanne, would love to hear from you. I only just discovered your side of the family.

It'd be easier if you could send me an e-mail. Mine is juanmckee@yahoo.co.uk or you could send a post here. Look forward to hearing from you either way.

Frances, would have been my grandfather's 1st cousin.

Hi, I am not related to you, sorry, I just try to help.
I am glad I put you in contact with each other.
Margot