I have found my grandmother, Catherine Hughes born April 4, 1894 and her family in the 1901 census in Ballindoalty. I am trying to locate where they may have actually lived according to the census. The census states they lived at # 9 on a street, not much more as far as information. I do know they lived on a farm and eventually in the 1930's property rights to the farm were transferred to the brother that remained in Ireland, his name was Edward Hughes.
How can I try to see where the street/farm might have actually been and possibly where it might relate to in the 2020s.
Thanks
Danny Sullivan.
P.S. the rest od my ancestors come from...maternal grandfather from County Sligo, and paternal grandparents and great grandparents are fro Kerry, Cork, and Galway
danny sullivan
Wednesday 15th Apr 2020, 12:50AMMessage Board Replies
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The house numbers that appear in the censuses were generally the enumerator’s own private numbering system, and changed from census to census. They do not relate to any postal number that the property may have today. Until pretty recently, your name and your townland was all that was required to get a letter delivered. The postman and most residents would know where everyone lived. No further identification was required.
The Valuation Revision records for Ballindoalty are on the PRONI website. They list Edward Hughes as renting plot 11a. He is deleted in 1906 (suggesting he had died) and replaced by Jane, who in turn is replaced by James and then back to Jane in 1911. She remains the occupant through to 1929 when that series of records finishes. They are noted that she bought the freehold in 1928 under the Land Act (ie with a government backed mortgage).
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/services/searching-valuation-revision-books
The Griffiths Valuation site has a map which shows you where plot 11a was/is. There’s an 1870s map and if you use the slider bar in the top right hand corner of the maps screen, you can overlay a modern map. Plot 11a was at the end of a dead end lane off the modern Killowen Rd, between Killowen and Lisnacree. There was a group of houses there. (Google Earth can show you what’s there today). The lane is about half a mile east of the Church of the Sacred Heart and runs south towards Carlingford Lough.
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=nameSearch
Edward Hughes appears to have died in Liverpool. Probate abstract:
Administration of the Estate of Edward Hughes late of Ballindoalty County Down Farmer who died 27 July 1905 at Liverpool granted at Belfast to Jane Hughes the Widow.
Jane appears to have died in 1943.
Hughes Jane of Ballindoalty Killowen county Down widow died 25 April 1943 Administration Belfast 15 September to Edward Hughes farmer. Effects £300 5s.
The term "Administration" means the person was intestate. So didn't leave a will. Both probate files should be in PRONI in paper format. They are free to view if you go in person.
Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
Wednesday 15th Apr 2020, 04:15AM -
Hi Danny!
My great-great grandmother was a Bridget Hughes from Balindoalty, so we are probably distant relatives!
She married my great-great grandfather in Rostrevor, in 1879, and my great-grandfather was born the following year.
He later ended up in Liverpool, which is where my grandfather was born, in 1917.
I came across your message during an internet trawl, trying to discover whereabouts they had lived in Balindoalty - just like you!
I live on the coast of South-East England. Whereabouts are you?
Best wishes,
Jo
Jojo
Wednesday 20th Jul 2022, 09:20PM