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Nelly Lawler and Andrew Brady were born around 1750 in Annagecliff, Killygarry, Cavan County, Ireland.  They had a son Thomas born around 1780 and a son John born around 1797. (both sons immigrated to Canada in the 1820's) Through DNA I think  that Nelly is related to  Malachi Lawler born around 1820 married to  Margaret McNamara  parents of James Lawler married to Annie Cusack born around the 1850's. I am hoping that someone can help me get more information on Nelly and Andrew either through the Lawler or Brady names or their connection to Malachi Lawler.   Any help anyone can give me would be greatly appreciated.  Awaiting your replys.  Suse.

Suse

Monday 8th Jun 2020, 04:01PM

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  • Hi Suse,  

    I am also following DNA lines and I find it frustrating because the records are not there to back up the science and at this stage I have had to remain genetic cousins with them.  But in the hope that someone in Co. Cavan recognises this family you could write to The Editor of The Anglo Celt through linda@anglocelt.ie you may reach a wider local audience. There is no guarantee they will publish your story but  if you have photos it would help add to the story.  

    Best wishes in your research.

    Regards Carmel

    Bailieborough Cavan

    Thursday 16th Jul 2020, 08:50PM
  • Thank you Carmel for responding.  I will write to the editor in hopes someone will recongize the names and respond.  Thomas Brady made quite a name for himself in Canada and is mentioned in a published reference book which helped me know more about his life after arriving in Canada in the 1820's.  Hopefully this will stir up some interest and help in my research. Wishing you good luck and all the best in your search for family connections.  Thanks again, Suse.  

    Suse

    Friday 17th Jul 2020, 10:47AM
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    Hi Suse, that sounds like a plan, a story about someone who has made a name for themselves & pictures should do it.  Tell me when you send it in and I will keep an eye out for when (fingers crossed) they publish it.  

    Carmel

     

    Bailieborough Cavan

    Saturday 18th Jul 2020, 09:34PM
  • Thank you Carmel.  I will keep you posted.  Thanks again for responding.  It is good to know that people are reading our posts and taking the time to help us trace our ancestors. Take care and keep safe.  Suse.

    Suse

    Sunday 19th Jul 2020, 11:14AM
  • Good morning Carmel.   I have sent an email off to Linda and received a confirmation it had been received.   She is on annual leave at the moment but I hope when she gets back she will have a look at the docment I sent her with the information on my ancestors.  I will keep you posted on any progress.  Thanks again for responding and for Linda's email address.  Fingers crossed my information gets published.  Suse.

    Suse

    Sunday 19th Jul 2020, 01:45PM
  • Carmel,  I just heard from Linda and she is going to publish my letter looking for my Brady/Lawler relatives.  Keep a lookout and let me know when it appears.  I will keep you posted on any feedback I receive.  Thank you again for your help,   Take care and keep safe.  Suse. 

    Suse

    Monday 20th Jul 2020, 11:32AM
  • That is brilliant Suse & I hope it reaches the relevant people to help you with your research.  I will watch out for it..  Best Wishes Carmel

    Bailieborough Cavan

    Monday 20th Jul 2020, 12:34PM
  • Thank you again for all your help Carmel.  Keep me posted if you see anything and I will keep you posted if I get any feedback.  Fingers crossed.  Good luck in your research as well.  I am also an ancestry member so if you need any help in your research just let me know.  

    Everything slowly opening up here in Ottawa and masks have become mandatory for all indoor activities and outside activities when distancing is not possible.  For the last few months I have been sewing masks and donating them to family, friends, local doctors for their patients, hospitals for visitors and for city of Ottawa organizations.

    Keep safe, Suse. 

    Suse

    Tuesday 21st Jul 2020, 12:27PM
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    Hi Suse,

    Well done on your work, hopefully your efforts will be repaid in kind.  Your letter to the editor was printed in The Celt to-day and I hope it awakens some long held memory and that you will get a response. 

    Best Wishes Carmel

     

    Bailieborough Cavan

    Wednesday 29th Jul 2020, 01:48PM
  • Good morning Carmel,.  

    Thank you for letting me know.   I am wondering if the Celt is online so that I could see the printed article.   Lets hope it awakens some memories.   Fingers crossed.   How are you doing?  Everything good here.

    Fondly, Susan..

    Suse

    Wednesday 29th Jul 2020, 03:14PM
  • Hi Suse, it is online but by subscription only, I can take a photo of it tomorrow & add it on here.  Regards Carmel

    Bailieborough Cavan

    Sunday 2nd Aug 2020, 09:40PM
  • Hello Suze,

          I am a descendant of Andrew Brady (he may have been John Andrew) and Mary Rosana McGuire. He was born about 1780 in County Cavan, but I do not know which parish. Their sons John and Michael were born about 1813 and 1818 respectively, also at unknown parish in County Cavan, but possibly Urney. I have never located a definitive paper record. I have DNA matches in many nearby parishes: Bailieborough, Drung, Templeport, Larah, Ballymachugh, etc. 

         Their son John Brady married Catherine nee 

    Brady born about 1822 whose parents are unknown. She was also from County Cavan, in an unknown parish. John and Catherine had two children born in Ireland, Philip Brady and Catherine Brady 1843 and 1845 also in an unknown parish in County Cavan. In 1847 they immigrated to New York, then Canada and finally to Webster County, Iowa. I have hunted for all these birth records and parishes to no avail. John never actually naturalized in the U.S., so no records there. His son Philip did, but he said he was from Canada because he had lived there since he was a young child. 

          I would love more info! Can we match DNA? His life in the U.S. is recorded in a book about him and his descendants: https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/records/item/179851-john-bra…

          Ali M. Pili

     

    Ali Goetz Pili

    Monday 19th Oct 2020, 02:29AM
  • Hello Ali M. Pili,  Thank you for responding to my inquiry.   

    I have done my DNA through ancestry.  Where have you done yours? 

    Wouldn't it be great if your Andrew is somehow connected to my Andrew Brady married to Nelly Lawlor.   The son of one of Andrew's brothers.   Andrew and Nelly had two sons that I know of Thomas born around 1780 and John born around 1797.   John married in Prescott County, Ontario Canada after he arrived in the early 1820's and it is through his marriage licence that I know he and his brother Thomas were born inn County Cavan.  

    I will check out the book about your descendants.

    Take care and keep safe.    Suze

    Suse

    Monday 19th Oct 2020, 04:13PM
  • Hello Suze,

           I do have DNA data on Ancestry, but I doubt the match will show since it is so many generations back and Ancestry DNA no longer posts cMs less than 7 or 10? Have you submitted your results to Gedmatch.com? If not, I suggest that you submit your raw DNA data from Ancestry to Gedmatch.com. It's a free site and it will allow us to go very distant and as low as 3 cMs. Since the closest match is to my 2nd great grandparents our match is likely very distant. With the Gedmatch data you can also submit it to FaceBook DNA sites for County Cavan and get more possible cousin matches that way too.

           The family history books are great, but only for life after arriving in America. The info on Ireland is sparse even after the author, my mother, hunted for them in Ireland two different times!

           Kind regards from a possible cousin,

           Ali. 

    Ali Goetz Pili

    Tuesday 20th Oct 2020, 07:26PM
  • Ali Goetz Pili,  what is your user name on ancestry does your DNA profile so I can do a search.  Thank you.  Suse. 

    Suse

    Friday 26th Nov 2021, 12:22PM

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