Despair!

Hello Spud Murphy, well this is a task and a half really; the details are very limited but I did manage to find five baptismal records for Michael Murphy in the Cork area:-

Church Baptism    MurphyMichael   Co. Cork  1816   

Church Baptism   Murphy  Michael  Co. Cork  1824

Church Baptism   MurphyMichael    Co. Cork  1824 

Church Baptism   Murphy Michael   Co. Cork  1824

Church Baptism   Murphy  Michael  Co. Cork  1822

Each of these Michael's had a mother named Margaret but there is NO records of any of these ladies having been registered in Cork within a five year period of 1781. No Michael born 1821 but if it is the census that you are working from, it is natural to have the incorrect year.  The name Murphy brings up 1000's however and we really would need to have more details such as the father's name or a hint perhaps: is the 1781 date correct or just guesswork?  I would so love to help you but even one more piece of evidence to give me alead would be great.

You can contact me in reply to this message    killeedy1@irelandxo.com

Stay well.    and Good Luck in your research.        Jennifer Jean

could not access above  email  for  jennifer  jean

I have discovered Michael married Margaret Tobin and their first son Jeremiah my ancestor.wss.born 1859 in Gloucester.However sadly not been able to.find a marriage certificate which of course would be very useful for. Irish research Can.you.help?

Hello again Spud, I have been revisiting your "Despair" notice - I often think the same about my own family line; however I have found 12 marriages in Bristol and around the Gloucestershire area for about the time that Jeremaih might have got married. Do you have any idea of the lady's name, surname or anything at all that might help as there is about 23 men of the same name which really doesn't help? In addition to this I have 219 Margaret Tobin's listed and the majority are from the Cork area was being clever and thought Jeremaih would not be so popular but surprise, surprise!

Let me know

Jennifer Jean (jenniemac2000@gmail.com)

Thank you for  your  ongoing  help.   I do  have  the  marriage  certificate  for  Jeremiah;  he  married  Emily  Harwood  in  GLOUCESTER  1880. They  lived  in  Tredworth.  IWhat  I am really  after  is  information  re  the  union of  Michael  Murphy  with  Margaret  Tobin in the  hope that  eventually I can discover  where in Cork  Michael  came  from  as  my  plans are to  visit  Cork  someday..

 

There is a marraige of Michael Murphy and Margaret Tobin in 1841 at Kilnamartyra, Cork.

Best wishes, Kieran Jordan

This sounds good now I need copy of marriage certificate please advise and thanks for time and effort spent.on my behalf

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Best wishes, Kieran

Again thanks Kieran ; I was hoping that the certificate would yield more information e.g ages so that I could do some.cross.checking. to convince me that they are my relatives. Any suggestions? Thanks Sue

Sue,

Looking back over the thread, if their first-born was Jeremiah in 1859, the 1841 marraige is possible but unlikey. There is no other record in Ireland for a marraige of Michael Murphy and Margaret Tobin, although the maraige could have been in a place where records weren't kept until later. The marraige could also have been in England?

Best wishes, Kieran

Thanks  Kieran  as  you  say  very  unlikely  match;  I have  not  been able to  find  a marriage  record  in  England  although  perhaps  more  likely  venue  First  glimpse  of  Margaret  Tobin  is  Jeremiah's  birth  certificate    born  1858    in  Gloucester   plain  sailing  after that  to the present  day.  As  previuosly  mentioned  planning  a visit  to  Cork  sometime  soon  and that  is why  I  am  hopefully  searching  !!

I am at last going to visit  Cork  staying in Rosecarber fpr a week in March.

Only new possible lead I have is a Baptism record for Mary Ann Murphy

March 28 1846  Cork and Ross Diocesan area   Parochial  area Bandon   where the sponsors were a Michael Murphy,  and Margaret Tobin who were married in Bandon 1835.

Hope this might help to shed some possible  light    on my ancestors  Thanks    .

Spud,

Let me know what day you might be in Cork City and we can arrange to have a coffee and a chat.

Best wishes, Kieran

Thanks for getting in touch ;Reading back my message to you I see I have made an error  It was  John  Murphy  and  Honora Collins who married in Bandon 1835  the parents of Mary Ann  for whom Michael and Margaret were sponsors 

Would be very pleased to meet in Cork City  if at all possible.  We  are arriving  March 20  and  leaving  March  27  and have no fixed itinerary 

Thanks  Susan  

Not sure you are receiving my replies    Kieran  Would love to meet up  In the Bandon area  march  21  -26     Susan

Susan, Just got this message, but didn't get the previous one. March 20 to 23 or March 26 suit me. If you like you can get my home email address from the IrelandXO office or send me your home email address through the office. We can then make an arrangement off the message board. Best wishes, Kieran