My 3rd g-grandfather, Edmund Carroll, emigrated from Limerick to the United States ion 25 June 1849 with 8 members of his family. I have found the ship Cato's manifest with all their names arriving in New Orleans, LA. I have been unable to find anything about him other that his marriage to Catherine Quinlan on 22 Feb 1824 at Hospital, Ireland. The parish register states he was from Effin Parish and Catherine was from Lough in the Parish of Cashel
His familynthat came to America were: Edmund-40yrs, Citty-40yrs, Patrick-18yrs, John-17yrs, Michhael-13yrs, Mary-8yrs, and James-7yrs. There was also a Mary Carroll-20yrs and another female identified as J Carroll- 19 yrs and a couple of cousins that accompanied him. Mary and J Carroll may also be children of this union. My 2nd g-grandfather Patrick Carroll I believe was born on 31 December 1831. His grave marker only states that he was born in Limerick.
My grand aunt had done a family tree decades ago and said that Edmunds father was Anthony Carroll who came to America in 1765 and then returned to Ireland. Anthony Carroll's father she indicated was Daniel Carroll (1687-1732). I have been unable to verify or document any of this beyond Edmund Carroll's marriage. I know he emigrated during the Great Famine but I find it difficult to understand why I can find nothing else. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
mwheeler
Friday 25th Sep 2020, 12:23AMMessage Board Replies
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Hi,
Welcome to Ireland Reaching out.
It will be difficult to find infomation for the periods that you are looking at. The records just dont exist that far back.
Below are the dates that records start in the parish
Effin & Garrenderk church records Baptisms 1843 - 1899 Marriages: 1843 - 1899.
So if Edmond was born in Effin then so record will exist.
Civil registration began in 1864. Again missing out on the time line that you are looking.
I looked at the land records but saw no Anthony or Daniel.
Below is a link for the tithe applotment books.The Tithe Applotment Books are a vital source for genealogical research for the pre-Famine period, given the loss of the 1821-51 Census records. They were compiled between 1823 and 1837 in order to determine the amount which occupiers of agricultural holdings over one acre should pay in tithes to the Church of Ireland (the main Protestant church and the church established by the State until its dis-establishment in 1871).
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/home.jsp
Below is a link for Griffiths Valuation. The primary valuation of Ireland or Griffith's Valuation - carried out between 1848 and 1864 to determine liability to pay the Poor rate (for the support of the poor and destitute within each Poor Law Union) - provides detailed information on where people lived in mid-nineteenth century Ireland
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/
None of our censi go back that far. We only have 1901 and 1911. The rest were destroyed on 30 June 1922,when the Four Courts in Dublin went up in flames during intense fighting between the forces of the then new provisional Irish Government and a section of the Irish Republican Army during the Irish Civil War.
I hope this explains why records are hard to find
Regards
Maresa
Croom Parish Liasion, IrelandXO Volunteer
Monday 28th Sep 2020, 08:09PM