The Callahan/Callaghans/O’Callaghans of County Cavan

Dear cal pat:  

You are in luck as one of our volunteers in Cavan is an O'Callaghan!  I will forward this message to her and she will reply to you in the next week or two.  If you have any questions or would like to share further information, please do so on this thread.  

All the best,  

Jane

Thank you Jane.

Hope springs eternal ......  If after 180 years we can discover our roots, the thousands of Callahan/Callaghans in Oz will be eternally grateful.  Pat

Dear Cal pat

I read with interest your family history request. I too am keen for additional information on the Callaghan’s of Cavan. My Great Grand Father was Joseph Callaghan b c 1840 and left Kil Co Cavan for Australia arriving in Sydney in 1865.

I visited Cavan in August 2018 and met with one of the volunteers who spent the day with us. What a day. So friendly, helpful, and entertaining.

What also interest me in your family outline is the mention the Callaghan’s Cousin, Patrick Fox.

My Great Great Grandmother was Catherine Fox who arrived from Ireland in Adelaide with her sister in 1850. Catherine travelled from Adelaide to Canberra, then to Orange, Bright in Victoria and finally to Urana NSW. Along the way Catherine met up with members of the Fox Family and was finally laid to rest with many of the Fox family in Urana in NSW in 1890.  As Patrick was a common name in the Family I wonder if there is a connection with the Patrick in the profile you provided. I would be pleased to explore further if you are interested

POD

Ps Hi Jane – some years since we last communicated

Hi Peter. Yes I am very interested in anything that might help solve this mystery.  What I have is that James Fox (c1800-?) married Mary Moore [the sister of our Bridget Frances Moore above] about 1831.  They had a son Patrick (1831-20 March 1913) who was born in Templemore (or Templepost?) Co Cavan and died in Euchuca, Victoria Australia.  Patrick married Bridget Ann Kitson 1828- 1923 on 15 June 1859 in Geelong Victoria.  Bridget was born Quinn Co Clare and died in Echuca. They had eight children.  Bridget Kitson's father was Michael Kitson (1789-1866) 

Michael Kitson was convicted at the Buckingham Assizes  on 7 March 1829 and sentenced to transportation for life to Tasmania.  He left on the Bussorah Merchant on 6 Oct (or 1 Oct?)  1829 & arrived Tasmania 18 Jan 1930.  He was released for work on the road gang and received a Conditional Pardon on 28 Feb 1842.  He married Margaret Boland.  there two daughters were Bridget Ann (above) and Catherine (c1832-1888). This Catherine died in Geelong, I think, in 1888 [Not Urana NSW in 1890].  Still there is enough here to warant further investigation.  Do you know anymore ablout Joseph Callaghan?

Hi Peter. Just realised that Urana and Echuca where Patrick Fox died in 1913, are only a couple of hundred kilometres apart.  Almost neighbours!

Searching Roots Ireland for children of James Fox and Mary Moore yielded the following baptism in 1843 in Templeport for Catherine "McShanahy" of Sranadargh. McShanahy is a variation of the name Fox.
I hope this helps!
Please feel free to email me directly at glanvil3@aol.com.
Name:Catherine McShanahy
Date of Birth:
Date of Baptism:05-Nov-1843
Address:Sranadargh
Parish/District:TEMPLEPORT
Gender:FemaleCountyCo. Cavan
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:James McShanahy
Mother:Mary Moore
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:Anthony McCusker
Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Mary Moore
Notes:

Hi Cal Pat

Thanks for your quick reply/

Here is what I have availabe at the moment.

CALLAGHAN Joseph. Joseph was born c1840. Joseph parents are unknown.

Joseph left Kill in Co Cavan at the age of 25 in 1865 and boarded the “Himalaya” which arrived in Sydney on the 3rd March 1865. The Himalaya left Plymouth on the 5th December 1864

Joseph married Eliza Downey in St Mary Cathedral, Sydney in 1873. Joseph and Elizabeth had four children two daughters, Louisa and Kate b1876 and two sons both of which did not survive. One son Francis died in 1878. All children were born in Redfern, Sydney

Louisa married Joseph O’Donnell and Kate never married

Joseph died in Redfern in 1920 and is buried at Rookwood NSW.

My Search in Cavan provided no more information about Josephand his family Given the date of his departure this was not a surprise. However, I was given numerous sources/resources by the volunteer  but  I have not had the time to follow these up. Will do so in time.

The Callaghan’s you refer to came to Victoria much earlier than Joseph but there may have been a close family connection in Cavan - this is a connection yet to be discovered. It is also suspected that Joseph’s sister came out with him but again I am yet to find a connection.

I will do a little more work on Patrick Fox and get back to you. Given Catherine’s close connection with the Fox Family in and around Southern NSW and Victoria I would not be surprised that Catherine may have travelled to Echuca. Catherine’s younger sister who arrived with Catherine married and settled in  that part of Victoria   

Hello, not sure if this adds anything but my 2X great grandfather, Philip Smith, married a Mary Callaghan in the parish of Drumgoon in Cavan on 26 April 1841.  She died in Cormadimpan on 15 March 1869.  I don't know anything about her parents, I was hoping to spend time with Concepta in Cavan this year but COVID 19 prevented that, hopefully next year.  My mum was born in Ireland and we both have our DNA in various databases.  Happy to share anything I can.  Colleen

You may have seen these baptismal records, but if not, RootsIreland has the following transcriptions for two children of Phil Smith and Mary Callaghan of Drumgoon, Co. Cavan.
Name:Biddy Smith
Date of Birth:
Date of Baptism:22-May-1841
Address:Parish/District:DRUMGOON
Gender:FemaleCountyCo. Cavan
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Phill SmithMother:Mary Callaghan
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:Andy Breslin
Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Biddy Donnery?

Name:Margaret Smith
Date of Birth:
Date of Baptism:12-Apr-1843
Address:Parish/District:DRUMGOON
Gender:Female
CountyCo. Cavan
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Phil Smith
Mother:Mary Callaghan
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:Thomas Floody
Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Catherine Crossan
Notes:

Hi Colleen. Thank you for the information on Mary Callaghan.  I am entering as many bits as I can in my database, hoping to find a link somewhere to the Callahans of Templeport.  I have had my DNA done and if you wish to contact me at calpat@gmail.com I can give you the number etc.  

Hi Colleen. I have done a bit more research on Drumgoon and Templeport where our Callahans seemed to be.  According to the 'Templeport Map 1809', they were just west (L) of the little 'bat shaped' lake SSE of Templeport Lough.  I believe this is called 'Gortnalech Lough'.  This is about 20 kilometres from Drumgoon which was probably too far for walking.  But there may be other links further back.  Happy to keep in contact as we might find a common thread,  Pat

Hello All, I am a volunteer on this site for County Louth but have a Callaghan ancestor from Cavan, parish is Castletara, there is some info on the 1821 census for that parish, my great grandmother was Mary Anne Callaghan born 1868, father John, mother Ellen Gilshinnan or similar now probably Gilsenan, her mother was most likely Erwin or Irwin and father Patrick.

Initally I thought she was from Drumgoon and a 1st cousin visited and the remains of that house are still there. Oddly she married in Stockport in England and came back to live in Leitrim, Mohill area. late 1890s.

I too have done DNA and had a brief email exchange with a cousin in England who informed me that he in turn had been informed by an American cousin the Callaghans came to Lislea, Fermanagh, in 1770 from Cork,  as horse dealers and bought or rented land in the general area at every opportunity. I can find no trace now of a Callaghan family in Templeport and have looked at the history site there for grave inscriptons, however there are a lot of Callaghans in the Annagh parish towards Belturbert, Lislea is close to the Cavan border.

If it is okay with you I will mail and send my Gedmatch, I am on most of the main sites for DNA.

All the best,

Pat

Hi Patricia,

Thank you very much for the info on Biddy (guessing this is Bridget?) and Margaret.  I do have both of those but have never been able to find birth information on my great grandfather (Francis) and other confirmed/potential siblings of Philip Smith and Mary Callaghan.  I have also not been able to track these two beyond their baptisms.

I know that my great grandfather was born about 1851 per age on his death record.  He married my great grandmother, Elizabeth (Bessie) King, on 3 May 1877 in Laragh, Tullyvin, Cavan.  He died on 24 Oct 1899 in Laragh.  The death was registered in Stadone by Michael Brady, who was present.  Family lore is he died after being dragged by his horse and my mother suggested that foul play was at hand but no cororner's report was listed so guessing not.  The family lived on King land and my grandfather grew up there.   There was also property, a quarry, in Cormadimpan that was owned by my grandfather until before his death.  I have my great grandmother and family in the 1901 and 1911 Census records.  I have also researched all of my grandfather's siblings, half of whom immigrated to the USA.  Some I have not been able to get beyond their baptisms.

I know two other confirmed siblings for my great grandfather, a brother Philip Smith, and a sister, Alice Smith.  There is also another that I haven't been able to link, John Vincent Smith, but he appears in some of the land records for the family and appears to be in the same area.  

Alice was born about 1861, per her death record, and immigrated to the USA on 27 Feb 1880.  She died in Philadelphia on 1 Nov 1934.  A number of my grandfather's siblings also immigrated to Philadelphia with the early ones sponsored by Alice and her husband, James Thomas Blessington.  Extensive family researched in the USA.

Philip was born about 1860, per his death record, and stayed in Cavan.  He married someone named Susan, I am thinking it is Susan Flanagan in July 1882.  He died on the 3 Sep 1928 in Cootehill (where my grandparents lived).  My grandmother or her sister in law (my grandfather's sister), both named Kate, was the informant.  I have him in the 1901 and 1911 Census records.  Philip and Susan did not have children as far as I know.

The one I am not sure about, John Vincent Smith, was born about 1860 and died on the 8 May 1925 in Tullycoe.  I have him in the 1901 Census as well.  I have no other info on him.

If you could point me in the right direction to find birth information on any of these I would be most appreciative.  I was hoping to book some time with Concepta, in the Cavan research centre, this year during our planned trip that had to be cancelled.  Hoping to do some more work with her next year, if possible, but will have to wait and see.  I am trying to get as much done as possible prior to the trip to make the work easier while there.

Thank you for any assistance!  Happy to share any of the information I have.

Colleen

Hi all

I have attached a list of BDM entries for the Callaghan dating from late 1880s into the 1900's. These may be of interest to you CalPat 

The Joseph Callaghan I am tracing was born c1820, so his births and parents and siblings predate the certificated attached. Possibly Joseph's family is related to the parents of the latter families.

I too have had my DNA taken and will check if there are any connections 

Finally, I did plot some of the locations mentioned in the certificates and found them to be within 10 minutes’ drive of each other just over and hours walk. Therefore, family connections could easily be maintained

Patricia, I will get back to you re the Fox family

Thanks

POD

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Hi Peter,  Thank you. What a trove of info.  I'll go through them when I get back.  Certainly got me motivated to head in the same direction.  As an aside, are you in Australia and if so do you have anything in common with the O'Donnells from around Birchip?  Regards Pat

Colleen,

The story about Francis Smith being dragged to death by a horse may be true. His death record notes he died of "concussion of the brain." Death record at:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_retu…
You might search the Irish newspaper archives to see if there is any mention of an accident.

Patricia,

I do think he was dragged by the horse (as I have had his death record for a number of years) but couldn't find anything on the incident and was told that if there was no mention on the death record that there was no inquest.  Can you recommend a site and likely newspaper for the Cavan area to look in?  I have tried looking in the past but none of the papers I looked in seemed to be specific to the Cavan area.

Can I ask if the information transcribed on the civil records that you can view on Irish Genealogy contain all the information available or is there a place you can buy a record with more information?  For instance, on the death record there is often no indication if the informant is a relative or not and no indication of parents or potential spouses for the deceased.  Just asking as my other half is Scottish and the records there contain more info when you purchase them.

Thanks for any info you can provide!

Colleen

Hi Peter, you mentioned above that your 2X Great Grandmother Catherine Fox (Was that her maiden name?)  You said she travelled with her sister.  Can you please give me some more detrails on both of them and do you go further back in the Fox line?  Thanks Pat

Hi Colleen reading through the great records that Peter uoloaded in the 'Callaghan BDM docs above, I realised that the first marriage certificate is for an Ellen Smith married to Owen Callaghan at Drumgoon.  Ellen could be Phillips relation.  Pat

Hi Peter, I am also related to Downeys.  I have uploaded a PDF below.  Pat

Here is a map of part of Cavan with some of the names you have shared.  Pat

Hi Pat, 

Great resources!  Looking at the map Philip and Mary settled in Cormadimpan, in the Parish of Laragh/Larah.  It would be positioned just below and between Drung and Castleterra. I have attached a parish map. That is where he is recorded on the Griffith's Valuation and where my great grandfather grew up.  To their children you can add: Francis (abt 1851 - 1899), Phillip (abt 1860 - 1928) and Alice (abt 1861 - 1934).  Phillip senoir dates are: abt 1825 - 1900 and Mary's are abt 1822 - 1869.  I have not found any further information  on Margaret or Biddy.

Hello Colleen,
To answer your questions about Irish newspaper databases, I recommend Irishnewsarchive.com.
About irishgenealogy.ie, the information in the register is the complete information.
I hope this helps,
Patricia

Here is a PDF of info.  If you are able to add anything, please do.  Pat

.I have now added a variety of other Callaghans from Tithe books, Griffiths etc.  Please keep adding any info you have as it may be the clue you need.  Pat

Hi Jane, further to your note of 8th Oct about one of the Cavan researchers being a 'Callaghan', has there been any progress on this please?  Pat

Hi Pat and Pat, Patricia, and Colleen

I have been reading the Notice Board over the last few weeks with interest trying to piece together all the information. In the meantime, I have been chasing the FOX Clan all around NSW, VIC and a little in South Australia. More of that latter.

First let me say that the Callaghan Irish BDM information was put together by Carmel my Cavan Contact. I simply copied it and sent it on.

Pat, you asked if I had any thing in common of the O’Donnell’s in Birchip. At this stage I cannot be sure. The section of the O’Donnell Clan I descend from originates in the Town Lands of Moneenreave, Parish Inishmagrath in Co Leitrim. My G G Grandfather was Hugh O’Donnell who married Margaret Early. The Early’s were tenant farmers in Moneenreave. Three of of Hugh and Margaret’s children, Anni, James and Michael immigrated in the late 1850 and settled in Hunters Hill Sydney. Some members of the family still reside there. Four Generations are buried in the Field of Mars.There were two other siblings Hugh Jr and Terrance who we believed also immigrated and possibly to Victoria. Also, some of Michael Sons moved to Victoria in the late 1800s. I am yet to follow these leads.

Eliza Downey and her sister arrived in Sydney from Muckalee Kilkenny in 1867. I am yet to trace the Downey’s but could use any help

As for Joseph Callaghan, there was mention of Horses. Joseph had a great relationship with Horses or at least a horse being a Sydney Cabbie. My father often said that the horse brought Joseph home at night. There is an inscription in the Callaghan Family bible made in 1890 by Joseph reads  “to keep for from drink Six Months”. I do not know if he did but my father who would have known his Grand Father never drank.

I spoke to my Sister today and she has the Callaghan Family Photo Auburn and will send me copies of the photos. We do not know the names of the people in many of the photos but they may still give aus a lead. I do have photos of Joseph and Eliza.

Now to the Fox Family. I have attached a Family Tree of sorts which identifies the many members of the Fox Clan she met on her travels. Also is a table in which I try to identify those who originate from Ireland, probably Dublin. Catherine’s tale  like so many others in her time is one of hardship and sorrow. None the less and like most Australian Family Stories it leads to extensive and successful descendants.

Please keep up the conversation.

Peter

Hi Peter.  Still working through all the info you sent.  Thank you.  Here are two bits of the O'Donnell and Downey trees I have, but no apparent connection so far.  Regards. Pat

Hi Jane.      Just checking to see of the volunteer you mentioned on 26 Oct was still available to have a look at the Callaghan origins?

Regards

Pat

Hi calpat:

I will send her a reminder.

All the best,

Jane

Hi All,  

I have been reading all your research into the O'Callaghan/Callaghan familes.

I met Peter in Kill in 2018.  

My husband's family have a story that four brothers came originally from O'Callaghan's Mills in Co. Clare to Co. Cavan, when we do not know.  However in the 1796 Flax Growers list there is a Widow Callaghan in the parish of Killann which is where we are based.  The other names mentioned are: 

Calaghan Bryan Crosserlough Cavan

Callaghan Daniel Ballymachugh Cavan

Callaghan Patrick Ballymachugh Cavan

Callaghan Peter Drumgoon Cavan  

None of these are close to Templeport.  

My husand's gedmatch number is KM1064754.  

One coincidence is that his relatives emigrated to Stockport and remained, we have had some correspondence with them.  I will see what else I can find relevant to your queries.  

Regards Carmel O'Callaghan

Thank you Carmel.  

The only solid thing we have to go on, is that John Philip Callaghan married Bridget Frances Moore.  Of the Children who came to Australia, the eldest and first to arrive Philip (1820-1853) had a son William (1855-1929).  On William's B/C it says that his father Philip was born in Templeport.  That's our only tie. All the other chidren's B/cs say simply Co Cavan.  Many of us have searched but have never found a John 'Philip' Callaghan. 

 The only other solid clue is that when the youngest child Susan (1834-1902) came to Australia with her brother James (my ancestor) (1830-1880), they were accompanied by their cousin Patrick Fox.  Patrick  (1831-1913) was the son of James Fox [also McShanahy] farmer (c1899-1867) and Mary Moore (c1800-????).  Mary Moore was the sister of Bridget Francis Moore (above).    On Patrick Fox's Death Notice (attached), it says on the RH bottom corner that he was born in Templemore Cavan Ireland.  I've looked but can't find a Templemore.

 So, we are no closer to a townland for the Callaghan childre or for the Callaghan, Fox or Moore parents.  Anything you can find just may give us a clue.  My Gedmatch number is IN-16539 and I have just ordered some more m&Y tests.  

Best regards, Pat Callahan

Hi again Carmel.  I just tried to compare your husband's number on Gedmatch with mine bur it said 'not in database.'  I'm rather new to all the DNA stuff so I keep looking.  

Regards Pat

Hi All and

Hi Carmel, nice to hear from you again. Much has happened since 2018 but our memories of our trip around Ireland and the people we met are still fresh in our minds. Thanks for your warm welcome.

I said in an earlier post that my sister was sending me some old family  photos handed down through four generations but we could not be certain who appeared in the photos. We believed the photo were of the Callaghan

I was able to trace the photographer.

Eliza Allen and her son William Bradley. Their studio, in George St Sydney, was taken over by Freemen in late 1873 so the photos were taken around this time.

Joseph Callaghan married Eliza Downey in 1873 and while there was a strong possibly that the photos were of the Callaghan it was not until I enlarged the faces that the penny dropped. My father resemblance to the faces in the photos was striking.

The photos were of family and as we had photos of Dad’s other grandparents there were clearly of Joseph Callaghan and Eliza Downey.

I have attached some of the photos so that if there are other photos of Callaghan around a comparison can be made.

Hope this helps Pat

Great photos going back 150 years ago!  You're very fortunate to have such records Peter.  With such large families on our side, very few records were kept in one place.  Once they get distributed, particularly into other married names, they seldom resurface.  

We have very few, even though I am an only boy as was my father and grandfather.  Things are a little better these days with the internet and DNA for finding these treasures.  Thanks Peter.  

Here is one of my grandfather Jim Callahan, probably taken just before he was accidentally killed in 1929.  He was a forester in the south west of WA and a large limb fell off a tree and killed him well before my time.

Pat

Hi Carmel, I was researching where the Callaghan came to in Victoria, Australia after they left Ireland in the 1840s.

I noticed that the Creeks around their land holding, were named after the original settlers.  On the attached map you can see Dewing Creek which was named after Fred Dewing who was in partnership with Philip Callahan on Paraparap Station.  Callahan Creek north & south branch and DENN creek.

Could this have been named after their home town in Co Cavan?  There was a John and Bridget (nee Moore) Callaghan in Denn in the records.  

Best regards.  Pat

Hi Pat,  

That is very plausible.  Are there land records in Victoria that you could research, perhaps there is a repository where deeds are kept, you might be able to find the list of owners and track it back to your people.  Denn is a civil parish, more information and lists of records is found here https://www.johngrenham.com/c_parish/c_parish_main.php?civilparishid=52…  

Regards Carmel

Thank you Carmel will follow up.  

Here is a copy of the B/C for John Callahan, son of Philip Callahan (1820-1879) which clearly says that John's father (Philip) was born in Templeport Co Cavan,  

Regards. Pat

Have a great Christmas everyone.  PatWell I have been given an early Christmas present a subscrition to Roots Ireland.  I already had a couple of dives into the records, but no sign of our Callaghans yet.

Hi Carmel,  

I have tried Roots Ireland a number of time but have had no success finding anything meaningful about our Callaghan/Moore/Foxes.  I am beginning to suspect that our oral history is incorrect.  There are a number of indicators that point to Templeport Co Cavan.  But nothing in the records.  Can you please think of anything else I can try?  

I have not heard from the Callaghan volunteer in Cavan yet.  Best regards.  Pat

Hi Carmel,

I have now got a copy of two B/cs.  Both show that the boys William & John 's father Philip came from Templeport Co Cavan, yet despite joining Roots Ireland I still have not been able to find any records.  Can you make a suggestion please?  Pat

Hi All, I have a mystery with Callaghan/Callahan.  My 3xgreat-grandmother, Alice Callaghan born about 1794, was transported to NSW in 1829 per Forth. She brought her infant  child with her.  She had to leave five children in Ireland.  Alice was assigned to the Coolangatta Estate in the Shoalhaven with Mr Wollstonecraft and Mr Berry.  A couple of years after arriving there, Alice married John Bailey, also a convict.

In Ireland,  Alice had been married to a Mr Callaghan.  I have no idea what happened to him. They had six children.  I have no idea what happened to the children.  Did any of them eventually come to NSW?  Or anywhere else in Australia?

Again, in Ireland, Alice attempted an escape from the jail in Limerick.  Two men had secreted them files and bars and then brought a ladder along to help them get over the fences.  Nine women including Elizabeth Lahiff, Mary Barrett, Eliza Higgins and Alice Callaghan (with her infant) climbed the ladder three times to get over the three fences.

Alice's NSW death certificate in 1868 in the Shoalhaven says her father's name was Maher.  I believe they were from Tipperary.  

I am seeking any information about the Callaghan children who remained in Ireland.

Many thanks,

Kerry

Hi Kerry 

Welcome to the search for the Callaghan family.

 And to Pat, Jane, Patricia, and Coleen it is great to read over our past conversations.

To Kerry, my meetings with members of the IRO in Ireland were precious. They gave me insight to the lives of our Ancestor and provided information that I might not have otherwise found. 

Locals also provided links and place names which helped. Keep searching it is rewarding.

Not surprising given timelines and distance my sister and I have been able to piece together the lives of many of our ancestors who arrives here at various times in our brief200 year plus history. If I may be of assistance with local searches, please let me know.

Pat, reading your comments again, raised more questions about the other families' names and possible relationships. The common localities in NSW and Victoria are also of interest. I must follow these up with you.       

It is great to back in the conversation

Peter

Hi Peter

Good to hear you have seen the 'green isles' again.  I celebrated my 80th on Saturday, so don't know that we will get back there again.

However I'm still very keen on the search.  I have had my DNA done and have just ordered the Y700.  Will let you know what the results are.

Regards Pat

Hi Pat

Great to hear from you and happy birth for Saturday.

Unfortunately, like you I think that I have had my last trip to Ireland.

80+ is pushing the cart just a little too far - however still managing caravanning in NSW   

I have had my DNA done so let's see if there is a link.

I can be contacted direct by email pp.odonnell@bigpond.com should you like to share information re local events etc.

Peter

Hi All,

Since last posting in this chat, I have purchased the death certificate for my 3xgreat-grandmother, Alice Maher Callahan.  I was surprised that more children were listed than I expected.  In my earlier post, I mentioned that Alice was only permitted to bring her baby with her to NSW, leaving another five children in Tipperary.  Her death certificate says she had one male and three female children livine and one male dead.   The one living male would have been Joshua, my 2xgreat-grandfather.  One of the living females would have been Lucy, her daughter, who married James Greer 1852 in the Shoalhaven.

The other two living females and the one dead male are unknown to me.  I suspect that some of the children from Tipperary had made their way to join their mother in NSW.

Pat mentioned above that John Phillip Callahan was born 1801 in Tipperary and then died in Cavan.  I just want to do a bit of  speculating at the moment to see if it rings any bells for anyone.  I have a lot of DNA matches to descendants of Phillip Kennedy and Honora Callahan from Gannavane, Tipperary.  Phillip was the son of Long Andrew Kennedy.  I have often wondered if Honora was related to the Mr Callahan who was the husband of Alice Maher (my 3xggm).  The dates are possible.  Honora was born about 1793-1795.  Alice was born about 1797.  Both Honora and Alice were from Tipperary.  Were they sisters-in-law?

What got me thinking this was seeing Phillip as the second name for John Phillip Callahan.  Was he connected to Phillip Kennedy and Honora Callahan.  As he was born in 1801, perhaps that rules it out BUT ... dates are very rubbery back then.

I wonder if some of the children that Alice left in Tipperary later went to Cavan.  Pure speculation.  Any bells ring for anyone?  

If any of you are on Gedmatch, I am A043054.  If you look at my one-to-many, you will see some close rellies (on both sides of my family).  Many of them descend from Alice if you would like to compare with them as well.

I am hoping to find some connection!

Kerry

Good morning everyone,

I am afraid I cannnot add any further information about my Callaghan connection at this time but hope to pick up some tidbits soon.  I am heading to the UK in less than two weeks and will spend a few days in Cavan visiting family and planning my mother’s funeral for next year (her final wish was to return to Cavan).  I can pop into see Concepta if anyone has a request for assistance or question for her let me know before the 23rd of the month and I will see what I can do while there.

Take care everyone!

Colleen

Hi Colleen,

Is Concepta in Cavan?  Is Callaghan her area of interest or could she help with other names?  

Thank you

Kerry

Hi Kerri,

A number of us who have been to Cavan and done research there have met Concepta.  She works at the Johnson Library where they have the genealogy centre. You can see a bit about them here: https://thisiscavan.ie/2019/07/09/trace-your-cavan-connections/ 

If you contact her about what you know about your family she may be able to help.  Concepta and her team will often way in about questions posted on this site and they are very helpful, both online and in person.  I have reviewed some of my own family with her both in person and online over the years.  My family names include: Brady, Smith, King, Reilly/O’Reilly, Donovan and Callaghan - plus two unknowns (to my great great grandparent level). 

Colleen

Hi Colleen

Thank you for that info.  Do you have an email address for Concepta please?

Pat

Hi Kerry

Wow!  Talk about thinking outside the box!  What an idea to followup.

Thank you for the A043054 Gedmatch info.  I'm not sure how to make a comparison, but I'll figure it out in due course.

I am also on Gedmatch and have a series of numbers.  When I uploaded my ancestor tree, I got a Gedcom ID 164 4058.  I also have DNA numbers T376333 and GS2429118. As I said above, I have ordered the Y700 test and can post the results when there to hand.

If can make a link, please let me know.

Below is a Word Doc in which I have added your info.  If you have any more details please let me know and I will update it.  All you Callahan/Callaghans, please feel free to do likewise.

Regards, Pat

Hi Kerri,

The email address for the Cavan genealogy site is: cavangenealogy@eircom.net

Hope this helps!

Colleen

Many thanks, Maxand Colleen.  I'll follow it up. 

Pat, I'll do some comparisons on Gedmatch and get back to you. 

Kerry

Hi Colleen,

Thank you for the info.

I sent Concepta an email but it bounced.  Would you pleas mind checking your records and I will try again.  Perhaps they changed their address.

Regards

Pat

Hi Pat,

Not sure why it is not working unless they have discontinued service?  I lifted off the website I posted above.  Here is their Facebook page (no email address noted on it though) https://www.facebook.com/CAVANGENEALOGYCENTRE/  It says you can contact them through the page (on the right side on my screen).

I have gone through my emails but cannot find a different one for Concepta, than the one above.

I can check with them at the Johnston Library when I am there in early November and let you know.

Colleen

Thank you Colleen

I sent it to info@cavangenealogy.ie and it seemed to go through.

Pat

Hi All

Had a couple of good suggestions from Concepta which I will follow up.  Very helpful.

This is the info about the Callahan children who came to Australia that I sent her.

Regards Pat

Calpat, I'm wondering if you are still active on this conversation?  My great grandfather Michael Callaghan, born at Young NSW in 1881 bears an uncanny resemblance to your grandfather Jim Callaghan.  I've tried to upload a photo but I'm thinking that I need to make a few posts before I'm able to do that.

Like most people here, I'm having trouble tracing my Callaghan line beyond Australia.  I have a DNA match to a line that goes back to Margaret Callaghan, born approx 1819 Clare, Crosserlough, Cavan to a James Callaghan and Catherine McEnancey but other than that, the Callaghan DNA matches are nigh on non-existent and our entire cousin group appears to only exist as Callaghan's in Australia.