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Hello,   My Family name is Callaghan and My G,G,G,Grandfather John Callaghan married Elizabeth Roddie around 1810-1830.
Their Son Owen Callaghan married Elizabeth McDermott in Newry 7th Febuary 1864. Owen died in Greenock Scotland in 1895.

I haven't been able to find anything on John and Elizabeth except that Owen was Born in Ireland around 1828-1832. Owens children were also born in Ireland. Elizabeth 1865,John 1866,Peter 1869 all born in Armagh and Mary who was Born 1877 in Greenock Scotland.

I would like to find out John and Elizabeths Birth place when they were Married and their place and year of Death. Plus the place and when Owen was Born.

It's a lot to ask but any Help would be much appriciated.

Peter Callaghan

Cally/Fitz

Tuesday 10th Nov 2020, 07:07AM

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  • Peter,

    Here’s Owen’s marriage in 1863. Note his wife gave her name as Mary (not Elizabeth). Owen’s address was Mullaglass (Mullaghglass) and the bride’s was Carrickneenan.

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1864/11598/8268484.pdf

    Elizabeth’s & John’s births in Mullaghglass:

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03589/2323261.pdf

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_retur…

    Here’s Peter’s birth at which time they were living in Cloughreagh. (Mother’s forename Mary).

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1869/03401/2247200.pdf

    Griffiths Valuation for 1864 lists Owen Callaghan on plot 35ba in Mullaghglass – a house and small garden (typical for a labourer at that period).

    Mullaghglass was in the RC parish of Killevy Upper. Their baptism records start in 1832 so Owen might just scrape in (and you might find details of any siblings born  later). The RC parish records are on-line free on the National Library site:

    https://www.nli.ie/en/family-history-introduction.aspx

    Tracing back before 1832 will be pretty difficult due to the lack of records. 

    I looked for a likely death for John Callaghan but did not see one of the right age 1864 onwards (which is when death registration started). I suspect he died before that, in which case there will be no record unless he has a gravestone.

    John Callaghan was a farmer according to the 1864 certificate. If so he should have been listed in the tithe applotment records. Those for 1834 & 1835 m list a John in Sefin (Seafin) townland. There were also several other Callaghans farming there too. So that might be him. There’s no John Callaghan listed there in Griffiths but there is an Elizabeth (usually when a woman was listed she was a widow). And she has the name John in brackets after her entry suggesting she was John’s widow. She had plot 42 & 43 which totaled just over 7 acres.

    http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=nameSearch

    She died in 1882 aged 90:

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1882/06406/4839894.pdf

    Ages were just a guess in those times and could be out by 10 years or more. I can’t say that is definitely Owen’s mother just it’s the only one that I can find that  fits. Seafin is very close to Mullaghglass so she was in the expected area.

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Tuesday 10th Nov 2020, 11:01AM
  • Hello Peter,
    Here is the transcription of a birth record for Owen Callaghan born in Armagh in 1820 to John Callaghan and Bridget Ruddy. Note that sometimes women named Elizabeth were called Bridget.
    Name:Owen CallaghanDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:10-Nov-1820
    Address:
    Parish/District:UPR CREGGAN
    Gender:Unknown
    CountyARMAGH
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:John Callaghan
    Mother:Bridt Ruddy
    Occupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:Henry Mallon
    Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Mary Hanratty
    Notes:
    I hope this is helpful. Please feel free to email me at glanvil3@aol.com.

    Patricia

    Tuesday 10th Nov 2020, 02:04PM
  • Hello Peter,
    Here is the transcription of a birth record for Owen Callaghan born in Armagh in 1820 to John Callaghan and Bridget Ruddy. Note that sometimes women named Elizabeth were called Bridget.
    Name:Owen CallaghanDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:10-Nov-1820
    Address:
    Parish/District:UPR CREGGAN
    Gender:Unknown
    CountyARMAGH
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:John Callaghan
    Mother:Bridt Ruddy
    Occupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:Henry Mallon
    Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Mary Hanratty
    Notes:
    I hope this is helpful. Please feel free to email me at glanvil3@aol.com.

    Patricia

    Tuesday 10th Nov 2020, 02:04PM
  • Here are transcriptions for the births of two Bridget Ruddys, both born in Upper Creggan in Armagh in 1797.
    Name:Bridget RuddyDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:31-Jan-1797
    Address:Parish/District:UPR CREGGAN
    Gender:UnknownCountyARMAGH
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:Michl RuddyMother:Margt Boylan
    Occupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:Bryan Gorman
    Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Cathe Gorman
    Notes:
    / /
    © 2020 Copyright Armagh Ancestry
    www.rootsirela
    Name:Bridget RuddyDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:26-Aug-1797
    Address:Parish/District:UPR CREGGAN
    Gender:UnknownCountyARMAGH
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:Peter RuddyMother:Mary Murphy
    Occupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:Jams Morris
    Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Judith Garvey
    Notes:
    / /
    © 2020 Copyright Armagh Ancestry
    www.rootsireland.ie

    Patricia

    Tuesday 10th Nov 2020, 02:07PM
  • Hello,  Thank You Elwyn and Patricia for your quick response to my request. Your information has been Extremly Helpful. Owens Parents John Callaghan and Elizabeth Roddie are mentioned on his Death Certificate. He died in 1895 in Greenock,Scotland. I'm going to check more into the information on Bridget Ruddy/Elizabeth Roddie. My Grandfather would always ask My older Sister Cathy to sing the song  "The County of Armagh" now I know the reason Why.  Thanks Again.   Stay Safe

    All the Best 

    Peter

     

    Cally/Fitz

    Friday 13th Nov 2020, 07:09AM

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