John Anderson/ Ann Miller

Stephen,

Statutory birth, death and marriage registration (in some jurisdictions called Vital Records) only started in Ireland in 1864, save for non RC marriages which were recorded from 1845 onwards. So you probably won’t find statutory birth, death or marriage certificates in Ireland for this family. For earlier years you usually need to rely on church records, where they exist.  Ideally you need to know the precise denomination and have some idea of where the person was born in order to search the correct records. Not all churches have records for that period and not all are on-line. 

RC records are mostly on-line on the nli site:   

https://www.nli.ie/en/family-history-introduction.aspx

For other denominations, the churches usually hold the originals but there are also copies in PRONI, the public record office, in Belfast. A personal visit is required to access them. Access to the records there is free. This link explains what records exist, parish by parish:

https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/publications/proni-guide-church-records

If you are unable to go yourself, you could employ a researcher. Researchers in the PRONI area: http://sgni.net

Looking at the records for Clonfeacle on the PRONI site it looks to me as though no church has any for the period you need, so you may struggle to find any record of the family from that source.

You should be able to get John’s parents names, and his father’s occupation from his death certificate. Several trees have him dying in Stirlingshire on 5.10.1868. There is a death certificate that matches that on Scotlandspeople. The certificate will also record whether his parents were alive or dead at that date. And if Ann died in Scotland too, then the same goes for her parents.

If John & Ann had a child born in Scotland in 1855 or 1861 onwards, the birth certificate should contain the date and place of their marriage.

Thanks for your replies folks.
Elwyn, I have a copy of the death certificate and have the father's name and profession I.e. father also John Anderson, a Baker and mother Mary Clark. I was hoping with this detail, I could trace further back, but seems unlikely due to lack of records.
Thanks anyway
Stephen

Stephen,

My name is Bev and I am the Great Granddaughter of Susan Anderson, sister of your Great Grandfather, Thomas.  Like you I have been unable to go back any further than John and Ann prior to Scotland.  I have both the death registrations for John and Ann and was disappointed that Ann's parents names were not recorded.  Although I don't have alot of information about John and Ann's family apart from Susan,  if I can help in any way, please let me know.

Bev Byrne

Thanks Bev, I do not have a copy of Ann's death certificate and would love a copy if possible. I do have John's tho. I also have census records from Stirling from 1851, 1861 and 1871 which shows Susan.
Could you possibly e mail Ann's death certificate to panda.hfc@hotmail.co.uk.
We could then possibly get in touch and swap any relevant information that we may have.

Many thanks
Stephen