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I have recently found my parents marriage registration and it shows my father Lieutenant Patrick Joseph Martin having his residence at the barracks. I am hoping to find out if there is any documentation for this.

Hil Martin

Saturday 17th Apr 2021, 10:16AM

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  • Hil,

    Which county? Where were the marriage and barracks?

    I would consider a marriage record with the address being the barracks as good documentation.

    If your father was in the army or the RIC, there would be further records for him.

    I hope this is helpful.

    Patricia

    Monday 19th Apr 2021, 11:30PM
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    Greetings Hil,

    According to their civil registration marriage record from the free irishgeneallgy.ie website, your parents, Patrick Joseph Martin and Evelyn Bracken were married in the St. Agnes Catholic Church, Crumlin, Dublin, on 25 September 1945. At the time of marriage your father Patrick had been a bachelor of “full age,” whose occupation was, Soldier’s Lieutenant.” His residence was the “Military Barracks Cavan.” The marriage record also shows that Patrick’s father was James Martin, who was a “Tailor.”

    At the time of marriage your mother Evelyn was of “full age’ and a “Spinster,” meaning she hadn’t been previously married. Her occupation was “Secretary.” Her address at the time of marriage was 283 Crumlin Road. Her father is Thomas Bracken. His middle initial looks like F. Thomas’s occupation was, “Ex D.M.P.,” which means he had formerly been with Dublin Metropolitan Police. Did you know that your maternal grandfather had been with the D.M.P.?

    The St. Agnes Catholic priest who married your parents was Patrick O’Keefe C.C. The initials C.C. stand for, “Catholic Curate.” The witnesses to the marriage were T. O’Leary and E. Dillon. Do you know if those witnesses were friends of your mom and dad?

    The link that follows will bring you to the register where your parents’ marriage is recorded. They are at Number 245 in the register. The deputy registrar, P. Conlon, recorded the marriage in the Dublin Registration District on 10 November 1945. See the marriage record at: https://is.gd/8LesJV

    I am wondering if your dad, being a Lieutenant, had only recently returned from the war. The unofficial end of World War II in Europe was 8 May 1945, when the German’s surrendered unconditionally to great jubilation in Europe, the U.S., Canada, and Australia.

    My own dad was in the American Army Air Corps, and served from North Africa in 1942 to Germany in 1945, without ever once returning home on leave. He saw some terrible and horrific things during the war.

    There should also be a St. Agnes Catholic Church marriage record for your parents. According to the dublindiocese.ie link, the church was constructed in 1935, just 10 years before your parents were married there. You can write, email, or call the church to see if you can obtain the church marriage record for your mom and dad. Go to the following link for contact information: https://dublindiocese.ie/parish/crumlin/

    The St. Agnes Parish homepage can be found at: http://www.crumlinparish.ie/

    The church is located on St. Agnes Road, Crumlin. At the time of marriage your mom was living at 283 Crumlin Road, Dublin. A Google Map shows that the present location of 283 Crumlin Road is less than a mile from the church: https://is.gd/TmRCNG

    For a Google Street View of the church, go to: https://is.gd/GDb97j

    For a Google Street View of 283 Crumlin Road, see: https://is.gd/zcVqSg

    There’s always the possibility the house numbers along the Crumlin Road may have changed since you mom lived there, and that the present-day 283 Crumlin Road is not the same house as the 283 Crumlin Road in 1945.

    The residence of your father at the time of marriage was the “Military Barracks Cavan.” This may be a reference to the barracks located in Cavan Town, County Cavan. You can see the location of the “Infantry Barracks” on an Ordnance Survey Map of Cavan Town from the 1888 to 1913 time period. The map is attached to this reply and comes from the GeoHive website. At that time the barracks was located on Barracks Hill.

    Sometime in the past the name “Barracks Hill” was changed to Wolfe Tone Street. The Google Map at the following link shows you where the Infantry Barracks had been located on present day Wolfe Tone Street, formerly Barracks Hill: https://is.gd/rm1zpp

    See the Google Street View of this area of Wolfe Tone Street at: https://is.gd/CYpTIZ

    To discover more about the barracks on Barracks Hill/Wolfe Tone Street, go to the irishidentity.com link at: http://www.irishidentity.com/extras/places/stories/streets.htm

    Once the page downloads, scroll down to the second to the last entry for a description of Wolfe Tone Street.

    With Kind Regards,

    Dave Boylan

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