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Hi, 

I am a new member and I prepare a trip to Ireland when the pandemic will be over.

I am looking for James Gallagher and Rose Smith or Smyth.

JamesGallagher was born in Ireland in 1782 (according to his death certificate in Canada.)

I found a James Gallagher born in Clones, Monoghan but I cannot find his birth certificate only a mention of that place birth.

This James Gallagher enlisted in 1805, May 10th in the army.  He was a part of the 47th Regiment of Foot in Cashell, Tipperary.  He was also born in 1782 (This is why I think it is my James Gallagher.).  Also he stay in the army until December 31st, 1833 and it is be mentionned that he is a SHOEMAKER.  An other clue that it might be him because John Gallagher was a shoemaker in Canada (and all his sons too.)

My James Gallagher married Rose Smith.  

This James Gallagher, soldier, married Rose Smyth in Clones, county of Fermanagh. Monoghan September 1821.

Unfortunatly no parents were mentionned.  Witnesses Dennis Gallagher and Mary Corley.

They had at least 2 sons in Ireland William (1828) and Johhn (1829).

I don't know exactly when they arrived in Canada but their presence is been confirmed with the birth of their first Canadian child Ann Gallagher baptised in Quebec in February 1833.

Later on they will moved in Montreal, in a neighborhood name Griffinntown where the Irish immigrants were living back in that time.  They were building Victoria Bridge and working mainly in the Railroad.  But the Gallagher were all shoemakers.

I know that I don't have a lot of clues about James and Rose Smyth.  

I am pretty sure that James the soldier is my James Gallagher but I am not sure at 100%.

If possible I would like to know about James and Mary parents and maybe family back in that time.

Thank you very much for your help and time.

I am a member of Ancestry, My heritage and Roots Ireland.

Irene

Irene

Monday 19th Apr 2021, 06:46PM

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  • Hi Irene,

    The Gallagher who married Rose Smyth in 1821 was JAMES not John.

    Have you looked at the Canadian records--death notices, vital records, headstones, etc., to see if the place of origin in Ireland is mentioned?

    Good luck!

    Patricia

    Monday 19th Apr 2021, 07:36PM
  • Hi Patricia,

     

    Thank you very much to pointed out my mistake.  I've corrected it.  It was really a JAMES Gallagher that I was looking for. Yes, I've looked everywhere and they never mentionned where exactly they were from except the mention of Ireland.

    I've uploaded the baptism of my ggggmother Susan Gallagher their last child born in Canada. 

    Thank you again

     

    Irene

    Irene

    Tuesday 20th Apr 2021, 07:38PM
  • Hi, Irene.  This is a long shot, but my mother was a Gallagher, although her father grew up in County Mayo, not in Monaghan.  My DNA results are also at MyHeritage, and at that and other sites I've turned up a fair number of Québecois DNA matches which I can't explain, although I've always assumed that they relate to an Irish connection.  The Gallagher surname is found mostly in Donegal and Mayo (and, to a lesser extent, in nearby counties), and it's actually quite rare in Monaghan, so your Gallagher's might well have come from in or near Mayo or Donegal.

    You didn't give your surname, so I couldn't look for a match at MyHeritage, but if you want to you can search my name there and see whether there's any match with me.  If there is, that may point to Mayo.

    -- Kevin Jewell

    kevin45sfl

    Tuesday 20th Apr 2021, 10:00PM
  • Hi Kevin,

    My name is Irene Ducharme. I am on Ancestry and My Heritage.
    I've checked on Jewell name in my DNA matches but I did not find you so far.

    On My Heritage they give me a 43.8% of Irish that's seems a bit high.
    On Ancestry it's look more accurate.
    43% France
    25% of Ireland

    Are you under the name Kevin Jewell or Kevin45sfl?

    Maybe my ancestors were from Donegal but moved eventually in Monaghan...before moving in Canada.

    A lot of Irish came and settled in Quebec mainly in Montreal but also in Quebec city. Maybe you are related to Quebec with another of your ancestors. Where are you living? If we figure out which of your ancestors settled in Quebec I can make some researches for you

    Irene

    Irene

    Wednesday 21st Apr 2021, 09:58PM
  • I checked at MyHeritage as well, Irene, and could not find a match for us.  None of my direct ancestors lived in Québec, but I suspect that someone in a collateral line must have gone there, and thus I have some DNA matches there.  Sorry I can't add any more than that.

    In case you're interested, in Irish, Gallagher is Ó Gallchobhair (modern Irish spelling Ó Gallchúir), and it means “descendant of the foreign help”, referring to a mercenary warrior brought in from Scotland or elsewhere in Ireland to fight in local wars (known as a gallóglach, or “gallowglass”).  It may also refer to Norse ancestors, since the term "gall" was used for them as well.  That is the root word in the name Galway (Gaillimh in Irish).  Galway town was founded by the Vikings, and a DNA study a few years ago showed a significant percentage of Norse ancestry in Mayo and Galway.

    kevin45sfl

    Friday 23rd Apr 2021, 08:09PM

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