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I’m looking for help to sort our Kilbride ancestors in Roscommon. Until recently we did not know their parish or townland. But, I have just received a wonderful source from a distant cousin here in the U.S. It’s a letter received by her grandfather (brother of my great grandmother) that gives us lots of information about our shared ancestor Michael Joseph Kilbride who emigrated in 1847 and settled in New Orleans, LA. The letter is from a cousin Patrick Kilbride in Cloonchambers. He wrote in 1901 that he is living in the house our Michael was raised in. He said his father was a Patrick Kilbride who died 33 years ago or 1868. This would be our Michael’s brother. He says enough about his own family members for me to identify him in the 1901 census as the Patrick Kilbride with wife Bridget and six children in House #25 in Cloonchambers. I would like to learn more about this particular Kilbride line. I know there are MANY with the same names which makes it difficult. Would also like to know if that house might be still standing? If we visit on a future trip would be able to find this spot in Cloonchambers? Attached a pic of our Michael Kilbride. He was a grocer in New Orleans. Thanks for any help!  

ecschroeder

Thursday 29th Apr 2021, 01:52AM

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  • ecschroeder:

    I searched on the subscription site Roots Ireland. Fortunately, the Castlerea RC church records go back to 1803 but there are gaps. I found a February 25 1818 Patrick Kilbride baptismal record with father Mark Kilbride and mother Mary Conally. There was also a Michael Kilbride July 15 1816. There was also an Eleanor May 16 1828 Peter August 6 1830 Elizabeth September 17 1832. There is a gap in baptismal records from August 1819 until January 1826 which accounts for no children between Patrick and Eleanor.

    I don't know if the house is still standing. The house number you mention (25) was an informal numbering system used by the RIC constable who came into the townland to pick up 1901 census forms from the various households.As a constable came into a townland, the first house visited was house 1, the second house 2 etc. 

    You may want to go http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/    and see where the Patrick Kilbride holding was located within the townland of Cloonchambers  I'm not an expert using the site but I think you can get a 2021 view of the townland.

    Let me know if you have any questions.

    Roger McDonnell

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Thursday 29th Apr 2021, 08:40PM
  • Hello,

    I descend from Cloonchamber Kilbrides from similar timeframe and have research information on the family that I can share.  I know the townland area very well as I grew up nearby and still visit quite often as living in Ireland.  If you wish, contact me at eamonhiggins@eircom.net to share information.

     

    valerie57

    Friday 30th Apr 2021, 04:20PM
  • Roger,

    Thank you so much for this reply! I've just looked at Griffith's on the askaboutiIreland.ie website for the info on this family. Very interesting. I think it will take a while to sort out which of the many Kilbrides with the same first names are actually ours. But we're working on it and happy to hear from anyone who is knowledgeable about these families and this area. My email is schroeder.beth@gmail.com

     

    Valerie57,

    So pleased to hear from you! We're definitely interested in communicating about Kilbrides in this area. I'll send an email.

    Thank you,

    Beth Schroeder

     

    ecschroeder

    Friday 30th Apr 2021, 06:51PM
  • Hello Beth,

    Roger gave very good advice about locating Patrick Kilbride in Griffiths Valuation for the townland of Cloonchambers. Cloonchambers was in the Civil Parish of Kilkeevin, County Roscommon. The name of the Catholic Parish was co-equal with that of the Civil Parish, and in some records the Catholic Parish was spelled, “Kilkeevan.”

    In the Irish language Cloonchambers is spelled, “Cluain Seamhair,” meaning Pasture of Clover, or Pasture of Shamrocks.

    GRIFFITHS VALUATION

    As Roger mentioned a search of Griffiths Valuation is available at the Ask About Ireland website: http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/

    Griffiths Valuation was enumerated in the 32 counties of Ireland between 1847 and 1864. The valuation for Cloonchambers and surrounding townlands was completed by the year 1857.

    Unlike a census, Griffiths Valuation did not enumerate individual members of a family, such as husband, wife, and children in a household residence. Those named in the valuation were individuals who paid to lease property, such as land, houses, and outbuildings. Each person who paid to lease the property was called an “Occupier.” The other person listed in Griffiths Valuation was the person who owned the property, or who worked as the middleman collecting the rent on Gale Day for the owner. This middleman was called the “Immediate Lessor.”

    I found Patrick Kilbride in Griffiths Valuation, leasing property in Cloonchambers.

    The valuation is attached to this reply.

    This Patrick Kilbride may have been the brother of your Michael who left Ireland in 1847 and settled in New Orleans. Patrick’s house in Griffiths Valuation in Cloonchambers, may be the same house where Patrick and Bridget Kilbride’s family were recorded in the 1901 census as residents of house 25.

    In the left margin of the valuation page you’ll see Map Reference numbers and letters. Patrick’s lease is Map Reference 15 a, and shows that he leased this property from an Immediate Lessor named William R.W. Sandford.

    Patrick leased a house, office, and over 28 acres of land. The land was valued at 5 Pounds and 5 Shillings. The house and office were valued at 15 Shillings. The total valuation for Patrick’s lease was 6 Pounds Sterling. He would have been required to pay a percentage of the value toward the tax.

    An office in Griffiths Valuation could refer to an outbuilding such as a barn, stable, workshop, piggery, etc. The number 15 and letter a are location markers for Patrick’s lease on a map compiled for the townland of Cloonchambers. These maps can be downloaded from the Ask About Ireland website. The online Griffiths maps however, can be a challenge to navigate because they cover a wide area which encompass more than one townland, and also because of what appear to be arbitrary map reference numbers and letters all over the map, as you’ll see.

    It took some navigating of the Griffiths Map but I finally located Cloonchambers and Patrick Kilbride’s lease at map reference number 15 a. The map is attached to this reply. You’ll notice that 15 a is in the middle of the map. The small case letter a is just below what appears to be a circle. This is called a fort, or a ringfort, or a stone fort, or even a cashel, and would be very old. Some ringforts date from the bronze age. For more information about ringforts, see Ireland Reaching Out at: https://is.gd/1OU6pL

    Just below and to the right of the letter a on the map, you’ll see three little boxes. These represent Patrick’s leased house and outbuilding.

    Also attached is an enlarged view of the Griffiths Valuation Map for Patrick’s lease.

    You can get another view of the location of Patrick’s house and the ringfort from an Ordnance Survey Map compiled between the 1888 and 1913 time period. The map is from the GeoHive website and is attached to this reply. On this map you can clearly see the round fort. Patrick’s house and outbuilding are just below the number 128 and to the right of the “Well,” on the map. The house and office are set back some distance from the road. This house to the right of the well is the house Patrick Kilbride leased when he was enumerated in Griffiths Valuation, and may be the same dwelling where Patrick and Bridget Kilbride were living when they were enumerated in the 1901 census. I found the family were also counted in the 1911 census for Cloonchambers.

    Along with 19th and early 20th century maps at GeoHive, you can also access contemporary satellite imagery of the area you are interested in, and place the satellite image over the old map locations. I did this and found that there is a house very close to the road where the Kilbrides had lived, that hadn’t been there in the old maps. You can also see the circular fort just to the left of the house in the satellite image attached to this reply.

    Several yards in back of the house and ringfort is a structure near lines of trees and hedges. This structure appears to be in the exact location as Patrick’s house and office in the old Griffiths Valuation and Ordnance Survey maps. There is no way to tell what this structure is used for today, just from the satellite image, however.

    The next thing I wanted to do is find the road where the Kilbride property was, and to locate the newer house that was constructed closer to the road, several yards in front of the old Kilbride residence.

    To do this I went to Google Maps. But Google Maps does not give a lot of details of a rural area like Cloonchambers. By enlarging the Google Map of Cloonchambers, I found the narrow road that eventually leads to the Kilbride property. The road travels west from another road called An Airm, or An Arm. The word Airm/Arm is the Irish word for weapon or army, though I’m not sure why the road has this name.

    The road traveling west from An Airm is not named on an enlarged Google Map at: https://is.gd/vEcuse

    A Google Street View shows the road off An Airm: https://is.gd/yKW5Lb

    A closeup Google Street View shows a stone road sign in English and Irish at the beginning of the narrow road. The names on the sign are “Cloonchambers,” and “Leveelich.” Even though there is no letter k in the Irish language, maps spell the name of this townland as “Leveelick.”

    See the road sign at: https://is.gd/ewGuUf

    Leveelick in the Irish language, I believe, means, “Half a Mile,” though I don’t know what the significance of this is. Leveelick is actually the townland just west of Cloonchambers.

    Patrick Kilbride’s property would be some distance down this road, which I’ll call the Cloonchambers and Leveelick Road.

    The road is what I would describe as a “Boreen” or “Bohereen.” A boreen/bohereen in Ireland is a narrow gravel or dirt road with an island of grass coursing down its middle. You can see this in another Google Street view of the Cloonchambers and Leveelick Road at: https://is.gd/fkvwh6

    Going down the road using Google Street View I eventually came to the house several yards in front of Patrick Kilbride’s old homestead. The stone fort is also visible to the right of the house from the road as well.

    Beth, because some people are not comfortable having a picture of their home submitted to a public forum such as this, I have not included the Google Street View of the house for reasons of privacy. If you send me your email address, I’ll forward the street view of the house and stone fort as attachments. You can then send the photos of the house, and the information in this reply to Valerie, to see if she can confirm if this is the area where the Kilbride family had lived, and to see if she knows who lives in the house near the road there. The owners of the house would know what the structure is behind their residence. This may be the place your Michael Kilbride left from on his way to America. Before he left home, his family and friends may have thrown an “American Wake” for him. For more information about an American wakes in Ireland, see: https://www.irishcentral.com/culture/irish-term-american-wake

    GRIFFITHS VALUATION CONTINUED

    I next found that a Patrick Kilbride leased a house, office, and over 72 acres of land in Leveelick. A Google Map shows that Leveelick is 1.1 miles west of Cloonchambers: https://is.gd/8ryvWr

    This lease was not contiguous with the leasehold of Patrick Kilbride in Cloonchambers, but not far away either. The Patrick Kilbride in Leveelick may have been the cousin to the Patrick Kilbride leasing property in Cloonchambers.

    The Immediate Lessor for Patrick Kilbride in Leveelick is the same Immediate Lessor for Patrick Kilbride in Cloonchambers, that is, William R.W. Stanford.

    Griffiths Valuation for Leveelick shows only 11 Occupiers. Patrick Kilbride had leased the most land in Leveelick at over 71 acres. The land was valued at 7 Pounds and 15 Shillings, while the house and outbuildings were valued at 15 Shillings. The total valuation was 8 Pounds and 10 Shillings. Patrick’s lease is the last one recorded in Leveelick at Map Reference 10. The Griffiths Valuation entry is attached to this reply.

    Also attached to this reply is the Ordnance Survey Map from Griffiths Valuation showing that Patrick’s land at Number 10 was the largest in Leveelick.

    Another attachment shows a larger view of Leveelick on the Griffiths Valuation map. The house and outbuildings are above the Number 10 on the map.

    The next attachment is a satellite view from GeoHive of this same area, signified by the orange teardrop marker.

    I found this area on a Google Street View and if you would like, will forward it to you as an attachment if I receive your email address.

    I next uncovered a surprise in the 1901 Ireland census showing a 46 year old Peter Kilbride, his 30 year old wife Bridget, and their 6 children were residence of house 3 in Leveelick. This house may be the same house that Patrick Kilbride leased back when Griffiths Valuation was published for the Kilkeevin Civil Parish in 1857. The 1901 census transcription from the National Archives of Ireland website can be viewed at: https://is.gd/ItHi4J

    When the 1901 census downloads, make sure you click on, “Show all information,” to view the full census page.

    For a copy of the original 1901 census of the Kilbride residence in Leveelick, go to the National Archives of Ireland link at: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003848701/

    In the lower right corner of the census form you’ll see Peter Kilbride’s signature. To the left of his name is the name of the constable who collected the census. The constable was James Durcan.

    In the 1911 census Peter and his family are still in Leveelick, and still residents of house 3. In this census Peter is 56 years old and his wife Bridget 41. The census line for Bridget shows that she and Peter had been married for 22 years and in that time had 12 children, with all 12 children still living. 11 of their children are in the household with them.

    The 1911 census transcription for Peter and Bridget Kilbride and their children in Leveelick can be found at: https://is.gd/CXsR3t

    Once again, click on “Show all information,” to view the full 1911 census page.

    For a copy of the original 1911 census for the Kilbride’s in Leveelick, see: https://is.gd/yhTcUo

    The next step was to find the civil registration marriage record for Peter Kilbride and Bridget, to see what Bridget’s maiden name was, along with other information.

    The 1911 census shows that Peter and Bridget were married for 22 years, which places their year of marriage circa 1889.

    I found their marriage record at the irishgenealogy.ie website. Peter Kilbride and Bridget McDermott were married in the Roman Catholic Chapel of Fairymount, County Roscommon, on January 29, 1889. At the time of marriage Peter was of “full age” and a bachelor. His occupation was farmer. His residence was, “Selerick,” which I believe would be a misspelling of Leveelick, as there is no townland in County Roscommon, as far as I can determine, called Selerick.

    Peter’s father is Patrick Kilbride, a farmer who is still alive. This information means that Peter Kilbride of Leveelick, and Patrick Kilbride of house 25 in the 1901 census for Cloonchambers, could not have been brothers. Your information shows that Patrick’s father, Patrick, had died in 1868, if I understand your genealogy correctly.

    Going back to the marriage record, Bridget McDermott was 18 years old and a “Spinster” (i.e. never married) at the time of marriage. No occupation is recorded for her. Her residence at the time of marriage was Augrim. Her father was James McDermott, “decea,” meaning deceased. The witness to the marriage were Patrick Kilbride and Honoria Gallagher. Michael Hanly, P.P., married Peter and Bridget. The initials P.P. stand for Parish Priest.

    Both Peter Kilbride and Bridget McDermott signed the marriage register. The marriage was recorded by the Deputy Registrar Jordan Laughlin in the Castlerea Registration District on 11 February 1889. The marriage record is the first entry in the register at Number 6, which you can access at: https://is.gd/ZZ0jhc

    The witness, Patrick Kilbride, recorded in the 1889 marriage for Peter Kilbride and Bridget McDermott, may have been Peter’s brother. He may also have been the other Patrick Kilbride who coincidentally was recorded in the 1901 and 1911 census enumerations for Cloonchambers.

    This Patrick Kilbride is a 37 year old farmer in the 1901 census. His wife Mary Anne is age 36. They, three of their children and a servant were, “Residents of a house 17 in Cloonchambers (Coolougher, Roscommon).”

    The “other” Patrick Kilbride, his wife Bridget and their children, were residents of a house 25 in Cloonchambers in the 1901 census. These two Patrick Kibrides may have been cousins.

    The children of Patrick and Mary Anne Kilbride in the 1901 census are 6 year old Mark; 4 year old Ellen, and 2 year old Winefred, all born in County Roscommon, as were their parents. The Kilbride family was Roman Catholic. Their farm servant is 20 year old Michael Darcy, a Roman Catholic born in County Roscommon.

    You can view the 1901 census transcription of the Patrick and Mary Anne Kilbride household at the following National Library of Ireland link: https://is.gd/kARbbU

    A copy of the original 1901 census for the household of Patrick and Mary Anne Kilbride can be viewed at: https://is.gd/Y7lKBN

    In the 1911 census, 49 year old Patrick Kilbride, his 50 year old wife Mary Anne, and their three children, are shown to be the “Residents of a house 4 in Cloonchambers (Coolougher, Roscommon).”

    On the other hand, Patrick Kilbride and his wife Bridget were the residents of a house 13, Cloonchambers, in the 1911 census. More on this later.

    The three children of Patrick and Mary Anne Kilbride in the 1911 census are 16 year old Mark; 15 year old Ellen; and 12 year old Winefred Kilbride. The census line for Mary Anne Kilbride shows that she and Patrick, as of 1911, had been married for 17 years, and in that time had 3 children, with the 3 children still living.

    The 1911 census transcription for the family of Patrick and Mary Anne Kilbride can be found at: https://is.gd/i25Soh

    The following link will take you to a copy of the original 1911 census for the family of Patrick and Mary Anne Kilbride: https://is.gd/ZblFRp

    If Patrick and Mary Anne were married for 17 years in 1911, their marriage would have taken place circa 1894.

    I looked for their civil registration marriage record at the irishgenealogy.ie website but didn’t find it. It’s possible that the priest who married them did not forward the marriage to the Castlerea registrar to be recorded in the civil registration system.

    To find out what the maiden name of Patrick’s wife Mary Anne was, I located the birth records of their three children at irishgenealogy.ie, which shows Mary Anne’s maiden name was Wallis/Wallace.

    Beth, in your message to Ireland XO you mentioned that you identified the family of Patrick and Bridget Kilbride in the 1901 census living in Cloonchambers, house 25.

    I don’t know if you saw the transcription of the census or a copy of the original census, and so I’ve included links to both in this reply.

    The transcription of the 1901 census from the National Archives of Ireland can be accessed at: https://is.gd/XJzXsA

    A copy of the original 1901 census for the family of Patrick and Bridget Kilbride can be viewed at: https://is.gd/okMT3u

    As mentioned earlier I also found Patrick and Bridget Kilbride and family in the 1911 census, which shows they were, “Residents of a house 13 in Cloonchambers (Coolougher, Roscommon).”

    The census line for Patrick’s wife Bridget shows that she and Patrick, as of 1911, had been married for 29 years. In that time they had 7 children, with 6 children still living. Four of the children are in the household with them in 1911.

    The 1911 census transcription can be found at: https://is.gd/F1Gawt

    For a copy of the original 1911 census, go to: https://is.gd/nmGSQN

    If Patrick and Bridget were married for 29 years in 1911, they would have been married circa 1882. I looked for their civil registration marriage record at irishgenealogy.ie and found it.

    Patrick Kilbride and Bridget Hussey were married in the Roman Catholic Chapel of Graulahan, County Roscommon, on 9 March 1882. At the time of marriage Patrick was of “full age.” There’s a three letter notation for Bridget’s age that looks like “ser,” but what I believe is actually the initials “do,” for ditto, meaning she too was of full age when she married. At the time of marriage Patrick was a bachelor and Bridget a spinster. Patrick’s occupation was labourer. His residence at the time of marriage was Cloonchambers. His father was Patrick Kilbride, “deceased.”

    Bridget Hussey’s residence at the time of marriage was Castlequarter. Her father is Thomas Hussey, whose occupation is “do,” once again, the abbreviation for ditto, meaning servant. The priest who married Patrick and Bridget was J. Loftus, C.C. The initials C.C. stand for “Catholic Curate,” which is a rank below parish priest in the Catholic clergy hierarchy.

    The witnesses to the marriage were Peter Kilbride and Anne Hussey.

    The marriage is Number 17, or the first entry in the marriage register, which you can access at: https://is.gd/dEg8ot

    The witness Peter Kilbride is likely the Peter Kilbride in the 1901 and 1911 census enumerations residing in Leveelick.

    As noted earlier, the 1889 marriage record for Peter Kilbride shows his father Patrick was alive.

    The 1882 marriage for Patrick Kilbride shows his father was deceased, which means this Patrick Kilbride and Peter Kilbride could not have been brothers. Peter may have been the brother of the Cloonchambers Patrick Kilbride who married Mary Anne Wallace.

    As you had mentioned Beth, there are many Kilbrides with the same names which can make researching the family history a challenge. Hopefully Valerie will have more information and correct any details that I may have gotten wrong about the Kilbride family connections in this reply.

    Patrick and Bridget were married in the Roman Catholic Chapel of Granlahan. At the time of marriage Patrick was living in Cloonchambers and Bridget in Castlequarter. A Google Map shows that Castlequarter is just south of St. Patrick’s Church in Granlahan. Cloonchambers is between 8 and 10 miles northeast of Granlahan. See the Google Map at: https://is.gd/gmPOjH

    For a Google Street View of St. Patrick’s Church and graveyard in Granlahan, go to: https://is.gd/QpaanQ

    For a Google Street View near Castlequarter, see: https://is.gd/kQ4Ep7

    In going over the Griffiths Valuation records as well as the 1901 and 1911 census enumerations, along with the marriage records for Peter Kilbride and Bridget McDermott, and Patrick Kilbride and Bridget Hussey, indications are that Peter’s brother was the Patrick Kilbride who married Mary Anne Wallace, and not Patrick Kilbride who married Bridget Hussey.

    Likewise, it appears that the Griffiths Valuation records Patrick Kilbride leasing property in Cloonchambers and Patrick Kilbride leasing property in Leveelick, were cousins, but that is just a theory. I can’t tell for sure if they were cousins. But the Patrick Kilbride in Griffiths Valuation leasing property in Leveelick, may have been Peter Kilbride’s father, as Peter is shown to be living in Leveelick in the 1901 and 1911 census enumerations.

    CIVIL REGISTRATION IN IRELAND

    Earlier, you saw the marriage records for Peter Kilbride and Bridget McDermott and Patrick Kilbride and Bridget Hussey. These marriage were recorded under the civil registration system in Ireland.

    Civil registration began in Ireland on 1 April 1845. But at that time the Irish government only recorded Protestant marriages and civil marriages. Civil marriages would be equivalent to people in the U.S. being married in town and city halls, or by a justice of the peace.

    The irishgenealogy.ie website has recorded copies of original civil registration birth records in Ireland from 1864 to 1920; marriages from 1845 to 1945, and deaths from 1871 to 1970, with plans to add copies of original death records from 1864 to the website at a later date.

    Right now, only death indexes, not copies of original death records, are available at irishgenealogy.ie from 1864 to 1870.

    Your information shows that Michael Kilbride’s brother Patrick died in 1868. I looked for his death index at the irishgenealogy.ie website, but didn’t find it. If he lived in Cloonchambers or Leveelick or any of the surrounding towns, his death would have been recorded in the Castlerea Registration District.

    I didn’t find the death index for any Patrick Kilbride recorded in the Castlerea Registration District, or any other registration district in County Roscommon before 1871. Patrick’s death may not have been reported to the registrar for the Castlerea Registration District, or perhaps he hadn’t died in 1868.

    Irishgenealogy.ie has only two deaths for a Patrick Kilbride in the 19th century that were recorded in the Castelrea district. The first is for a Patrick Kilbride who died in the townland of Lara on 28 September 1879, at the age of 96. The other is for a Patrick Kilbride who died in the Castlerea Workhouse on March 23, 1886 at the age of 72. This death record does not give the name of the town where Patrick was from before he was admitted to the workhouse.

    I believe that I did find the death records for Patrick and Bridget Kilbride, who would have been the former Bridget Hussey, and for Peter Kilbride and his wife Bridget, who would have been the former Bridget McDermott. The maiden names of the Bridget Kilbrides are not recorded in their death records.

    Patrick’s wife Bridget died in Cloonchambers on May 17, 1925 at the age of 73 years. At the time of death she was married and was the “wife of a farmer.” The cause of death was “Probably heart failure. No Medical attendant.” The person who was present at the death and who reported the death to the registrar was Bridget’s husband Patrick, of Cloonchambers. The Assistant Registrar, May Gaffney recorded Bridget’s death in the Castlerea Registration District on July 6, 1925. Bridget’s death is Number 25 in the register at: https://is.gd/zJYiV5

    Bridget’s husband Patrick Kilbride died in Cloonchambers on July 18, 1937 at the age of 79. At the time of death he was a widower. His occupation had been farmer. His son Patrick Kilbride of Cloonchambers was present at the death and reported the death to the registrar, P.J. Duffy. P.J. Duffy record Patrick’s death in the Castlerea Registration District on October 18, 1937. Patrick’s death is Number 234 in the register at: https://is.gd/6ZqCd5

    Peter Kilbride died in Leveelick in April of 1940. Because of the handwriting in the death register, I couldn’t make out what day in April he had died. At the time of death he was married and was 84 years old. The cause of death was, “Old age. No Medical attendant.” His occupation was farmer. James Kilbride, his son, of Leveelick, reported the death to the registrar, P.J. Duffy, who recorded the death in the Castlerea Registration District on what appears to be June 20 1940. Peter’s death is the last one in the register at Number 437: https://is.gd/XaasTo

    Peter’s wife Bridget died in Leveelick on October 10, 1950 at the age of 80 years. At the time of death she was a widow of a farmer. The cause of death was, “Old age. No Medical attendant.” James Kilbride, her son, of Leveelick, reported the death to the registrar, J.P. Duffy, who recorded the death in the Castlerea Registration District on December 29, 1950. Bridget death is the last one in the register at Number 79: https://is.gd/02gFnX

    Unfortunately, I couldn’t identify a death record for the Patrick Kilbride who married Mary Anne Wallace. But I did find Mary Anne’s death record, showing she died in Cloonchambers on February 16, 1937 at the age of 81. The death record shows she was the widow of a farmer and that the cause of death was “Old age. No Medical attendant.” Margaret Kilbride of Cloonchambers was present at the death and reported the death to the registrar, P.J. Duffy, who recorded the death in the Castlerea Registration District on April 26, 1937. Mary Anne’s death is Number 197 in the register at: https://is.gd/FSRamy

    Oddly enough, Patrick and Mary Anne Wallace Kilbride did not have a daughter named Margaret, but Patrick and Bridget Hussey Kilbride did, as Margaret is in the household with her parents in the 1901 and 1911 census enumerations. In the 1901 census she is 9 years old and recorded as, “Maggie,” while in the 1911 census she is 19 years old.

    What Mary Anne Kilbride’s death record did was to prompt me to look for the wedding of her and Patrick’s only son, Mark, who was 6 years old in the 1901 census and 16 in the 1911 census in Cloonchambers.

    I found the marriage, and a surprise. Mark Kilbride and Margaret Kilbride were married in the Roman Catholic Chapel of Castlerea on 23 June 1925. At the time of marriage Mark was of “full” age and a bachelor. His occupation was farmer and his residence was Cloonchambers. His father is Patrick Kilbride a farmer.

    Margaret Kilbride was also of full age at the time of marriage and had been a spinster, meaning she had not been previously married. No occupation is recorded for her. Her residence at the time of marriage was Cloonchambers. Her father was also Patrick Kilbride who had been a farmer. Patrick Clune, the Parish Priest had married Mark and Margaret. The witnesses to the marriage were Patrick Kilbride and Mary Gallagher. The marriage of Mark and Margaret is Number 152 in the register which you can access at: https://is.gd/USII5Q

    Margaret’s mother was Bridget, maiden name Hussey. Margaret and Mark would have known each other from when they were children, as they both lived in Cloonchambers. In the 1901 census Margaret was recorded as 9 year old “Maggie,” residing with her parents Patrick and Bridget in house 13, Cloonchambers. In the 1911 census she was 19 year old Margaret with her parents in house 25 Cloonchambers.

    Margaret’s 1891 Cloonchambers birth record is Number 455 in the Castlerea District birth register at: https://is.gd/lZQsGs

    CONCLUSION

    As mentioned earlier Beth, if you send your email address I’ll send a return email with an attachment of the Google Street View of the house that sits in front of the property in Cloonchambers that Patrick Kilbride leased as recorded in Griffiths Valuation, and where Patrick and Bridget Kilbride and children may have lived when they were recorded in the 1901 and 1911 census enumerations for Cloonchambers.

    I’ll also send another attachment showing the area in Leveelick where I believe Patrick Kilbride was recorded in Griffiths Valuation and where Peter Kilbride had lived when he was recorded in the 1901 and 1911 census enumerations.

    Valerie may recognize the areas of Cloonchambers and Leveelick where the Kilbride families had lived. You can also send this reply to Valerie and have her compare the information I found with the Kilbride research information that she has compiled.

    There are nine attachments with this reply:

    Griffiths Valuation Cloonchambers
    Griffiths Valuation Map Cloonchambers
    Griffiths valuation Map Cloonchambers Enlarged
    Ordnance Survey Map Cloonchambers 1888 to 1913
    Satellite View of Former Kilbrie Lease in Cloonchambers
    Griffiths Valuation Leveelick
    Griffiths Valuation Map Leveelick
    Griffiths Valuation Map Leveelick Enlarged
    Satellite View of Leveelick
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    SOURCES:

    askaboutireland
    Griffiths Valuation
    Griffiths Valuation Maps
    Ireland Reaching Out
    Google Maps
    Google Street Views
    GeoHive Ordnance Suurvey Maps
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    With Kind Regards,

    Dave Boylan

    davepat

    Friday 7th May 2021, 02:48PM
  • Dave,

        Thank you so much for all of this wonderful information! I'm still reviewing it all. I would be happy to receive your email. Mine is schroeder.beth@gmail.com 

        I've learned a lot in the last week from Valerie who knows these Kilbrides well as some of them are her direct ancestors. She says they were not all related and hers is a different line than mine. She let me know a third Patrick (the letter-writer's son) also lived in the old family home in Cloonchambers. He actually married Winnie Kilbride, daughter of the other Patrick from down the road! 

         I would never have been able to sort out these Kilbrides without this help from Ireland Reaching Out. All of the volunteers are much appreciated! My sister and I look forward to visiting Ireland again and our list of places we want to see keeps growing.

    Beth Schroeder

    ecschroeder

    Friday 7th May 2021, 05:42PM
  • Dave:

    Another great research effort! Thanks!

    Roger

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Saturday 8th May 2021, 12:11AM
  • You're welcome Roger, and many thanks for your kindness.

    Dave

    davepat

    Saturday 8th May 2021, 08:15AM
  • You're welcome Roger, and many thanks for your kindness.

    Dave

    davepat

    Saturday 8th May 2021, 08:15AM
  • Hi Elizabeth, if you plan on visiting Ireland be sure to get in touch with us at info@irelandxo.com as we have local volunteers on the ground that could show you around.

    Best wishes

    Denise, IrelandXO

    IrelandXO Moderator DC

    Tuesday 18th May 2021, 03:41PM
  • Dear Beth, I am a decendent of the Kilbride's of Cloonchambers. My father was born 1908 in Leveelick. My Email is killerkilbride@yahoo.co.uk . Please contact as I have a lot of information.

    Regards Maureen

    Maureen

    Friday 22nd Oct 2021, 10:41AM

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